Brad Miller [merged]

[Ramps]

millers a better athlete than anthony. i actually expect miller to do a fairly good job for us up forward.

[Penelope]

Miller is fine a 1-2 year project wont be clogging the list when we will contend like Anthony would.

Miller knows more about football than the wacko from Collingwood.

you know this how?

I dont know Miller at all but what makes you think he is exactly what we need at Punt road. Im sorry i dont think we need him at all.

We should spend more on developing the players we have got not recruit a discard from another club.

This is camerons doing and he hasnt really got a good track record of recruiting other clubs players now has he

 

and that is different from others saying he is an astute pickup and will teach the young guys a few things/structure us up how exactly?

Others aren't saying they know nothing about something they don't want.

they may not be saying it but they're doing the exact same thing. I reckon we could recruit neagle and the same ol will find a positive in it 

  I doubt it - none of the same ol have put forward a case for Hislop on the rookie list.


The difference is that mostly people defending the decision have posted on the thinking behind it ,which can be gleaned by listening to what the club has said and a bit of thought, rather than the player himself. A number of posts in this thread summarise why they believe the club is taking this path and the merits of it. MT is really the only one to put forward some sort of thought out argument against these posts.

If you can find such a contradictory statement amongst them, point it out and I will laugh at it with you, even if it's mine.

[gerkin greg]

Rather mature rookie Matthew Richardson, the number #12 is vacant...

[1965]

Rather mature rookie Matthew Richardson, the number #12 is vacant...

[gerkin greg]

How's that old vag of yours 1965? Still full of sand and a bogged VW? Or has someone finally managed to back a tow truck in there and pull that idiot out? Genuinely interested. Bet it's in mint condition, lack of moisture is good for rust prevention.

[Coach]

Can someone clean me up? Just peeed my pants

 

[gerkin greg]

another classy post

 

[Coach]

Get out of here you 16 year old with no life.

Good to see you again fat man 

[Dice]

Don't min hislop on the rookie list.

At least he is not soft. Would be a very handy max rooke type player for coburg

Our rookie list should be for the development of potential AFL players for Richmond; not VFL players for Coburg  .

hislop is alot younger than miller.

Former high draft pick. Not impossible one day he ends ok afl player

26 Nahas, Robin  33 22yr 11mth 10 Nov 1987 176cm 67kg Oakleigh Chargers Forward 
16 Grigg, Shaun  43 22yr 6mth 19 Apr 1988 190cm 85kg Nth Ballarat Midfield 
42 O'Reilly, Jamie (R)  3 22yr 6mth 28 Apr 1988 184cm 78kg County Down, Ireland Midfield 
27 Hislop, Tom  22 22yr 4mth 7 Jun 1988 185cm 85kg Tassie Mariners Midfield 
46 Webberley, Jeromey  10 22yr 3mth 12 Jul 1988 181cm 74kg Clarence Defender 
19 Connors, Daniel  24 22yr 1mth 22 Sep 1988 184cm 82kg Bendigo Midfield 
10 Edwards, Shane  69 22yr  25 Oct 1988

High draft pick is irrelevant after a few years in the AFL system as we've just found out with Tambling as well as Meyer, Patto, Polo, JON, Cleve, Schulz, Gilmour and Fiora  . Hislop has had 4 years in the AFL system yet played just 22 games averaging 11 possies. He's only played in 3 wins where in each case he was in the bottom 6 for disposals. Hardly stuff to write home about and persevere with. The only thing Sloppy has in common with Grigg, Connors and Edwards is they were drafted in the same year. Webberley has had just one season of AFL yet is already with an average of 15 possies, O'Reilly just two coming from a gaelic background, while Nahas also in his 2nd year was found out this year.

Having a full playing roster where all players are part of the club's future and not back-ups while in rebuild mode > saving 70k

Added the bold bit.

you make a lot of sense mate

[Dice]

Dick

[one-eyed]

Brad Miller almost a Tiger
By Kim Hagdorn
30 November 2010


FORMER Melbourne utility Brad Miller will take vital steps toward officially moving into Richmond colours when he lodges draft nomination documents today.

Miller, 27, looks certain to be a Tigers rookie draft selection on Tuesday December 7.

The versatile big man who can play as a key forward or close-checking defender is not expected to be taken as a pre-season draft pick with the Tigers committed to collecting disgruntled Essendon forward Bachar Houli.

Miller was dumped by Melbourne at the end of last season after he played just six games in 2010 as the Demons headed firmly into a youth policy for plans of a further rebuilding in coming seasons.

Miller looked to have revitalised his stumbling AFL career with a five-goal haul from 11 disposals in Melbourne’s Round 9 win over Port Adelaide in Darwin.

But he managed just three more goals in his next four outings over the next month and was dropped after Round 13 and not recalled before he was dumped from the Demons senior list.

Miller was one of three established Demons who were casualties of Melbourne’s rebuilding plans with respected captain James McDonald, 34, forced to retire and Cameron Bruce, 31, who walked out on broken contract talks.

Bruce is headed to Hawthorn through the pre-season draft and has been training with the Hawks for the past month.

Miller had originally been linked with a possible move to new AFL club Gold Coast with his origins at Mt Gravatt in Queensland.

But he has been training with the Tigers and appears certain to continue his career from Punt Road as a rookie.

The AFL has dramatically relaxed rules regulating rookie selection.

Clubs can have up to six rookies depending on the number of veterans on their senior list.

In 2011 for the first time, rookies can be any age as well as previously been on an AFL club list.

In the past clubs could only have one mature aged rookie over 23, such as Geelong’s 2010 rookie sensation James Podsiadly at 29.

Miller will be a Tigers rookie, while another aged de-listing victim Simon Taylor, 28, has also nominated for the final listing selections of the year.

Taylor's hopes of being taken in the draft appear far less certain.

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/11/30/brad-miller-almost-a-tiger/

[gerkin greg]

Did Gold Coast pick up Jimmy Mac Jr.? I thought he had a pretty good year at the Dees, one of his best. Certainly one of their best players.
Anyway I hope those toffs choke on a continental cucumber, Bailey gets the sack, and Tom Scully comes over to Punt Road in a ruthlessly orchestrated piece of poaching.
I assume we leave Miller to our very last rookie pick?

[Fishfinger]

The AFL has dramatically relaxed rules regulating rookie selection.

Clubs can have up to six rookies depending on the number of veterans on their senior list.

In 2011 for the first time, rookies can be any age as well as previously been on an AFL club list.

In the past clubs could only have one mature aged rookie over 23, such as Geelong’s 2010 rookie sensation James Podsiadly at 29.

What drugs is this Kim Hagdorn on?

Clubs can have up to 8 rookies if no eligible veterans.
You could have 2 mature age rookies last year. We had Polak and Roberts.
2 mature age rookies is compensation for Gold Coast and GWS getting draft concessions. You can have 2 mature age rookies this year as well.
It reverts back to 1 in 2012, unless the rule is changed again.

[Infamy]

The AFL has dramatically relaxed rules regulating rookie selection.

Clubs can have up to six rookies depending on the number of veterans on their senior list.

In 2011 for the first time, rookies can be any age as well as previously been on an AFL club list.

In the past clubs could only have one mature aged rookie over 23, such as Geelong’s 2010 rookie sensation James Podsiadly at 29.

What drugs is this Kim Hagdorn on?

Clubs can have up to 8 rookies if no eligible veterans.
You could have 2 mature age rookies last year. We had Polak and Roberts.
2 mature age rookies is compensation for Gold Coast and GWS getting draft concessions. You can have 2 mature age rookies this year as well.
It reverts back to 1 in 2012, unless the rule is changed again.

Not true, there are no limits on rookies any more. They can all be any age and can all have AFL experience if you want.
Only limit is how many can play at AFL level based on number of veterans and LTIL

[mightytiges]

According to the AFL site we can have nine rookies next year - 8 'normal' rookies plus O'Reilly if he's classed as an international rookie. I guess you could now have as many rookies as you're willing to pay for provided those outside the normal 8 are all international rookies.

ps. Miller is still a waste of a rookie pick  .