Brad Miller [merged]

[Mr Magic]

If we're serious, he'll get delisted as opposed to promoted.

[Jackstar is back again]

have to keep.
Get rid of players 31-38.

[Mr Magic]

have to keep.
Get rid of players 31-38.

I don't see it. He's no better than many we cleaned out in the rebuild.
Not needed as insurance now. Delist.

[Go Richo 12]

have to keep.
Get rid of players 31-38.

Agree, we still need some experience around the joint. Melbourne has shown what happens when you have don't have enough around. He doesnt need to be a champion, just a teacher of the younger kids.

[Mr Magic]

Agree, we still need some experience around the joint. Melbourne has shown what happens when you have don't have enough around. He doesnt need to be a champion, just a teacher of the younger kids.

Lol so Miller leaving is the reason the Dees have gone backwards??
Older does not equate to any good.
We have quite a few senior players now, he won't be missed.

[WilliamPowell]

Lol so Miller leaving is the reason the Dees have gone backwards??
Older does not equate to any good.
We have quite a few senior players now, he won't be missed.

Would think the way the Dees handled MacDonald & Miller's departures has had a bit to do with the problems the Dees have had this season - players certainly were not happy with the way it was done

[Jackstar is back again]

just goes to show that most posters on here dont watch the game
Brad plays a significant role in our forward set up

[Stripes]

just goes to show that most posters on here dont watch the game
Brad plays a significant role in our forward set up

Have to agree Jack. The way he assists with our forward structure set ups, creating space for our other forwards and bring ing the ball down to our crumbers far outweighs any deficencies he has with his goal kicking. He is doing exactly what he was brought to the club for - educating and leading the younger players plus allowing the likes of Griffiths and Astbury etc time to develop before being forced into the line up before they are ready.

I don't think anyone thinks Miller is a long term prospect but until he is forced out of the team and has no other worth, why not keep him on the rookie list?!

[Jackstar is back again]

Correct, his assists in goals is very good.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

just goes to show that most posters on here dont watch the game
Brad plays a significant role in our forward set up

No just don't have low standards. He did a job, now bye bye.

[Mr Magic]

Milzy's played a couple of decent games for the year. One of them against his former struggling team last week.
Amazes me how some fall into the old trap of overrating Richmond players who are short of the grade as soon as they show an ounce of ability.
Miller has the mobility of a semi-trailer, there is no use in persisting with him for another year.

Would think the way the Dees handled MacDonald & Miller's departures has had a bit to do with the problems the Dees have had this season - players certainly were not happy with the way it was done

McDonald perhaps.

Miller spent most of last year in the reserves so I hardly see how it made any difference to them.
I would suggest speculation over Scully and general player unhappiness with the administration has played a far greater part in the stagnation of the Dees this season.

[WilliamPowell]

Would think the way the Dees handled MacDonald & Miller's departures has had a bit to do with the problems the Dees have had this season - players certainly were not happy with the way it was done

McDonald perhaps.

Miller spent most of last year in the reserves so I hardly see how it made any difference to them.
I would suggest speculation over Scully and general player unhappiness with the administration has played a far greater part in the stagnation of the Dees this season.

My mail is that the players were not happy with how either was handled - both extremely popular and well respected by their peers.... the MacDonald thing in particular has lingered all season 

[Mr Magic]

My mail is that the players were not happy with how either was handled - both extremely popular and well respected by their peers.... the MacDonald thing in particular has lingered all season  

Cam Bruce's departure too would have raised some eyebrows I guess.
Even if what you say is true re BM, I can't see how moving him on this year from Richmond would parallel with any player disgruntlement at Melbourne.
I think we can cover what he's offered this year quite easily in 2012.

[Go Richo 12]

Milzy's played a couple of decent games for the year. One of them against his former struggling team last week.
Amazes me how some fall into the old trap of overrating Richmond players who are short of the grade as soon as they show an ounce of ability.
Miller has the mobility of a semi-trailer, there is no use in persisting with him for another year.

Would think the way the Dees handled MacDonald & Miller's departures has had a bit to do with the problems the Dees have had this season - players certainly were not happy with the way it was done

McDonald perhaps.

Miller spent most of last year in the reserves so I hardly see how it made any difference to them.
I would suggest speculation over Scully and general player unhappiness with the administration has played a far greater part in the stagnation of the Dees this season.

Yes thats what i was referring to WP.
I agree MM, Miller is not our future but he can help shape it.
However, even though Miller played reserves most of last season, even that was handled poorly. It got to the stage where Melbourne wanted to pick Miller for a farewell game, even though he had not been delisted yet, and he told them to jam it preferring to play with the younger blokes in the twos. I think from memory he was booting alot of goals earlier and was being ignored for selection.

[Penelope]

I agree MM, Miller is not our future but he can help shape it.
However, even though Miller played reserves most of last season, even that was handled poorly. It got to the stage where Melbourne wanted to pick Miller for a farewell game, even though he had not been delisted yet, and he told them to jam it preferring to play with the younger blokes in the twos. I think from memory he was booting alot of goals earlier and was being ignored for selection.

The part in yellow is so correct, GR, and something that some dont seem to be able to get their head around.
Recent comments from Hardwick about miller

Look he's just helped with the general development of our forwards. We looked at our forward stocks and they were quite thin with Jack. The development of Tyrone Vickery and Ben Griffiths who we've seen a little bit of but not a great deal is purely down to the work of Brad and Danny Daly our forward-line coach. He's done a power of amount of work with bodywork and positioning. Sometimes as a coach it is difficult if you haven't played that position to teach but Brad's work with Danny has those guys playing some pretty good footy. You only have to look at the development of Vickery this year has been a great positive for us.

"He brought instant leadership, he's an outstanding leader. His character is second to none,"

something the club has severley lacked

In terms of being ignored early in the season, he was recruited for a specific role and that was made clear to him at the start of the year
From all reports he has accepted his lot with dignity