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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2010, 05:12:01 PM »
Fremantle has exchanged its pick # 55 in the NAB AFL Draft to the Gold Coast in return for their pick # 61 & pre-listed player Peter Faulks
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2010, 06:03:59 PM »
Quote from: tony_montana on October 07, 2010, 01:40:03 PM
wow GC killing it
It seems GC have exploited the rules smartly once again to give Brisbane more than what was in the papers this morning. GC got Brisbane to agree to release Brennan as a 2nd uncontracted player (remember it was meant to be only one uncontracted player per club) so they could also give Brisbane another compo pick along with Collingwood's compo pick. The trade of picks 5 and 10 were just thrown in to make Brisbane happy.

So the whole trade will be ....

Collingwood:  Krakouer, John Ceglar (200cm, 19 y.o.) ..... for ...... Fraser, Pick 25

Gold Coast:  Brennan, Fraser, Pick 10..... for........ Krakouer, Ceglar, Pick 5

Brisbane: Pick 5, compo pick (Brennan), Collingwood's compo pick (Fraser)..... for ...... Brennan, Pick 10


So the AFL giving these new clubs license to grab uncontracted players and players from outside the AFL is effectively a licence for them to print picks at will trading these players back to existing clubs. A loophole to the point of being a rort. Having said that GC seem to have some very smart cookies able to grab these new trade and draft rules and exploit them to the tilt.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2010, 06:26:54 PM »
That's not true MT.  GC are only allowed to have 1 uncontracted player from each team.  Risky was that player.  The compensation pick that they're talking about is Collingwood's compo pick.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2010, 06:36:41 PM »
Quote from: Danog on October 07, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
That's not true MT.  GC are only allowed to have 1 uncontracted player from each team.  Risky was that player.  The compensation pick that they're talking about is Collingwood's compo pick.
GC weren't allowed to grab/poach/take more than one uncontracted player from each club but because Brisbane agreed to release Brennan as a uncontracted player to GC it's all been allowed. Both clubs exploited the rules.

See here:

THE BRISBANE Lions and Collingwood will receive compensation from the AFL after utility Jared Brennan and ruckman Josh Fraser became the seventh and eighth uncontracted players to join Gold Coast.

Brennan and Fraser signed with the Suns soon before Thursday's 2pm deadline, although written permission was required from the Lions given Gold Coast had already acquired midfielder Michael Rischitelli from the club.

The Lions gave the go-ahead, and the details of the compensation packages are expected to be finalised before the weekend.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103880/default.aspx


Welcome to the new world of the new clubs just printing draft picks out of thin air and pushing all our 2nd round and later picks back further down the draft order. It's clever by GC to exploit the loophole but it's a rort :P.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2010, 06:44:32 PM »
dodgy as f***
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2010, 06:53:28 PM »
Quote from: mightytiges on October 07, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Danog on October 07, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
That's not true MT.  GC are only allowed to have 1 uncontracted player from each team.  Risky was that player.  The compensation pick that they're talking about is Collingwood's compo pick.
GC weren't allowed to grab/poach/take more than one uncontracted player from each club but because Brisbane agreed to release Brennan as a uncontracted player to GC it's all been allowed. Both clubs exploited the rules.

See here:

THE BRISBANE Lions and Collingwood will receive compensation from the AFL after utility Jared Brennan and ruckman Josh Fraser became the seventh and eighth uncontracted players to join Gold Coast.

Brennan and Fraser signed with the Suns soon before Thursday's 2pm deadline, although written permission was required from the Lions given Gold Coast had already acquired midfielder Michael Rischitelli from the club.

The Lions gave the go-ahead, and the details of the compensation packages are expected to be finalised before the weekend.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103880/default.aspx


Welcome to the new world of the new clubs just printing draft picks out of thin air and pushing all our 2nd round and later picks back further down the draft order. It's clever by GC to exploit the loophole but it's a rort :P.
WTF?

how does this happen? I thought they could take ONE uncontracted player from each club?

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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2010, 06:58:35 PM »
how do GC get to trade John Ceglar to Collingwood if he was playing TAC cup this year?

cause he put him self up for last years draft?

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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #82 on: October 07, 2010, 07:15:13 PM »
Quote from: Bentleigh-esque on October 07, 2010, 06:58:35 PM
how do GC get to trade John Ceglar to Collingwood if he was playing TAC cup this year?

cause he put him self up for last years draft?

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He was one of GC's pre-listed players.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2010, 07:18:37 PM »
Quote from: al on October 07, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: mightytiges on October 07, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Danog on October 07, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
That's not true MT.  GC are only allowed to have 1 uncontracted player from each team.  Risky was that player.  The compensation pick that they're talking about is Collingwood's compo pick.
GC weren't allowed to grab/poach/take more than one uncontracted player from each club but because Brisbane agreed to release Brennan as a uncontracted player to GC it's all been allowed. Both clubs exploited the rules.

See here:

THE BRISBANE Lions and Collingwood will receive compensation from the AFL after utility Jared Brennan and ruckman Josh Fraser became the seventh and eighth uncontracted players to join Gold Coast.

Brennan and Fraser signed with the Suns soon before Thursday's 2pm deadline, although written permission was required from the Lions given Gold Coast had already acquired midfielder Michael Rischitelli from the club.

The Lions gave the go-ahead, and the details of the compensation packages are expected to be finalised before the weekend.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103880/default.aspx


Welcome to the new world of the new clubs just printing draft picks out of thin air and pushing all our 2nd round and later picks back further down the draft order. It's clever by GC to exploit the loophole but it's a rort :P.
WTF?

how does this happen? I thought they could take ONE uncontracted player from each club?

tip rat scabs!
A slight clause that said only ONE uncontracted player per club whose compensation will be determined by the AFL unless a club agrees to release another uncontracted player at an agreed compensation between the current club of the uncontracted player and Gold Coast.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #84 on: October 07, 2010, 07:34:32 PM »
Carlton are ---- heads.

They wanted a first round pick for Sam Jacobs? Are they kidding?

They seem to be playing hard ball, who do they think they are?

I hope all those players leave and Carlton get nothing.

I hope we give Carlton nothing!

Grigg is not worth anything under 60!

Could we get Houli and Grigg through the PSD?

Obviously that means we have to use less in the ND?

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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2010, 07:39:28 PM »
Quote from: mightytiges on October 07, 2010, 07:18:37 PM

A slight clause that said only ONE uncontracted player per club whose compensation will be determined by the AFL unless a club agrees to release another uncontracted player at an agreed compensation between the current club of the uncontracted player and Gold Coast.


That's a strange piece of language.
Where does the "agreed compensation" come from?
If it's from the overall draft pool, then the two clubs can just conspire to get what they want which goes against the idea that the AFL decide on the compensation pick.

Lovely to see this scam on the last second of the deadline for GC listing uncontracted players.  :banghead
Presumably now Geelong, Adelaide, Port, Bulldogs and Hawthorn can now decide on picks with the Suns.
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #86 on: October 07, 2010, 08:43:59 PM »
No problem with Brennen going to the Gold Coast.

He was traded to the Gold Coast, he didn't sign with GC.

He just happened to be uncontracted.

It was probably agreed ages ago that he would go to the GC, but Risha sign before him, so GC would of thought, give up a pick for him?

I don't like this "Pre-List" GC have!

I believe we should be compenstated for, considering we delisted him because he was going to jail.

But then again, he did play last year in the WAFL and we could of ask the AFL to resign him.

Just not happy with the "Pre-Listed Players"??? When was his established?

So that would mean ... GWS can sign one uncontracted player from each 16 clubs, plus "Pre-List" players???

How many can they Pre-List?

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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #87 on: October 07, 2010, 08:55:09 PM »
No, torch. It seems brennan is not traded to GC. GC do not loose a pick, but brisbane gain one, still to be decided which.
This is an extra pick pulled out of thin air that pushes all picks after back by one.

Big difference.

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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2010, 09:26:55 PM »
FORMER Hawthorn ruckman Robert Campbell says he still harbours hopes of a return to the AFL, despite being overlooked by Gold Coast as one of its pre-listed players.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103893/default.aspx
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Re: All other trade talk
« Reply #89 on: October 07, 2010, 09:33:44 PM »
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