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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2010, 01:01:31 PM »
yep, the art of saying nothing :banghead

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2010, 01:08:26 PM »
Elle is probably outside of our age requirements.  maybe a younger model.

mature age nookie list ;)

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2010, 03:30:46 PM »
VFL Stand-Alone Teams


In the 2011 season there will be 3 AFL teams that will not have VFL affiliations.

These teams are:

Collingwood

Geelong

Gold Coast

Why is this worth noting? Well taking the Gold Coast away from this exercise as they are first year entrants in 2011, Collingwood won the 2010 premiership and Geelong won the 2009 and 2007 premierships. This statistic alone is one that we at Richmond should take serious note. Three of the past four premierships have been won by teams that have a stand alone VFL team.

What this shows is that there are significant benefits to having a stand alone team in the VFL. Whether this is improved player development or just having full and complete control of your reserves team that has allowed Collingwood and Geelong a greater advantage in the AFL competition, whatever the case may be, we must take stock.

Now that the Gold Coast are entering the AFL competition in 2011, they have kept their stand-alone VFL team. Will this mean that they too will show improvement at a greater pace than other teams? This is to be seen going forward. Suffice to say we should nullify the competitive advantage that these 3 teams will have as soon as possible.

This is very easy to say that yes Richmond must be have a stand alone team in the VFL competition, but the real fact of the matter is that this exercise comes with a significant cost. My understanding is that this is in the form of approximately $400,000 per year to run this team.

I wish to state that I believe that Richmond should be a team working towards this goal. The major proviso here is that we must be able to pay for this without incurring further debt. I might add that we must clear our debt prior to venturing down this path.

I am an advocate for a stand alone Richmond VFL team as soon as fiscally possible.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2010, 03:45:00 PM »
Where should they play, Phil?  Coburg, Craigieburn or Punt Road?

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2010, 03:49:03 PM »
Where should they play, Phil?  Coburg, Craigieburn or Punt Road?

My preference would be Punt Road, as we will have had some time to develop our ground prior to this taking place. I am not sure how this would work logistically, so I would probably engage the Richmond Football department to determine that this would be of benefit. As we have invested in a relationship with Craigieburn it might be also possible to split the home games between Punt Road and Craigieburn.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #95 on: November 24, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »
VFL Stand-Alone Teams


In the 2011 season there will be 3 AFL teams that will not have VFL affiliations.

These teams are:

Collingwood

Geelong

Gold Coast


Hmmm........ I think you will find that the Gold Coast wont be in the VFL comp in 2011 but a new comp being launched along the eastern seaboard

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I wish to state that I believe that Richmond should be a team working towards this goal. The major proviso here is that we must be able to pay for this without incurring further debt. I might add that we must clear our debt prior to venturing down this path.


All well and good and most people would be saying "yep great idea, agree".

However, you have yet to answer yhe one question that keeps getting directed your way and that is the "hows".

And the "hows" I am talking about are how do you plan to increase revenues, how do plan to payback the debt etc etc. To be honest I am sick of asking

You say no stand alone VFL team until the debt is gone (and your figures on running our own VFL club are near the mark) but in all your posts here and on your blog uyou haven't offered one solid idea on how we get rid of the debt and increase the revenues to makes this all possible

It's all just more of the same - this is what we should be doing but nothing on how we should go about doing it  ::)

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #96 on: November 24, 2010, 04:14:49 PM »
VFL Stand-Alone Teams



I wish to state that I believe that Richmond should be a team working towards this goal. The major proviso here is that we must be able to pay for this without incurring further debt. I might add that we must clear our debt prior to venturing down this path.

I am an advocate for a stand alone Richmond VFL team as soon as fiscally possible.


How do you know that the current board aren't working towards the same goal.
Actually i know for a fact that it has be discussed at great length and is an almost certainty to happen when it is a viable path to take.
Jumping the gun is something that should be frowned upon when it comes to The RFC.

Also i think that it would be smart business to not only to wait until our debt is cleared but when we are in the black by a fair bit of coinage.
Change for the sake of change is something that needs to change.

Sorry if i sound negative Phil, im not against you.

But you need to remember alot of supporters feel comfortable with the direction and stability the club is showing at the moment.
Some of us think we can see the bigger picture ( me included ) and for a change we aren't feeling as nervous as years prior.
So you can see our hesitance in electing somebody that comes across as though they belong on the board 10 years ago.

Alot of the goals you have outline are actually some that the club are currently trying to achieve.

We need the bigger picture of how Phil Anderson will help the current board move forward.  :)

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #97 on: November 24, 2010, 04:26:50 PM »
I dont reckon we are gonna get anything other than typical polly hyperbole from these wannabes.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #98 on: November 24, 2010, 07:34:44 PM »

During the Casey regime in 2004 the club incurred the debt that is still sitting there despite the great efforts of Steven Wright.
March was the Vice president and then became president.
Gary Cameron was and remains today the Treasurer.
March and Cameron have never explained what the hell they were doing while the club lost SEVEN MILLION dollars in one year.
New board directors came on board to supposedly fix our financial oversight.
As far as I know this oversight has never been explained to the members in any meaningful way.


Incorrect on my part.
On reading the 2010 Concise Financial Report, I see that Rob Dalton was appointed Treasurer in 2008.  
« Last Edit: November 25, 2010, 12:06:14 AM by RedanTiger »

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2010, 12:25:09 PM »
IMHO


Phil has no chance of getting on the board

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2010, 12:24:00 AM »

March and Cameron have never explained what the hell they were doing while the club lost SEVEN MILLION dollars in one year.

What year was this?

I remember the $2.2m loss in 2004. Can't recall $7m.
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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2010, 12:57:28 AM »
We lost $800k in 2003 and as FF said $2.2m in 2004. The loses were due to a large fall in corporate sponsorship at the time when the then Board was expecting a signficant rise, loss in gaming revenue plus them spending more on Frawley's footy dept.  in a (deluded) hope they could buy improved form on-field. So total losses of $3m. Prior to that we made profits in 2001-2, a loss in 2000 and then 12 years of consecutive profits 1988-1999. The mid-80s of course was the financial disaster zone that we are only now 25 years later seeing the other side of. You don't recover quickly from losses equivalent to $17m in today's money. That's why our players have had to train in basically 1970s standard facilities until recently with the new redevelopments.
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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2010, 01:51:51 AM »

March and Cameron have never explained what the hell they were doing while the club lost SEVEN MILLION dollars in one year.

What year was this?

I remember the $2.2m loss in 2004. Can't recall $7m.
Probably cause it never happened

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2010, 10:13:36 PM »

March and Cameron have never explained what the hell they were doing while the club lost SEVEN MILLION dollars in one year.

What year was this?

I remember the $2.2m loss in 2004. Can't recall $7m.
Probably cause it never happened
Sorry, my error. The seven million figure that stuck in my mind was what the debt reached at end of 2004.
2004 Financial Report "Current Liabilities $7. 06 million."

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #104 on: November 27, 2010, 09:17:20 AM »
I wonder if Phil will continue to contribute to the fan sites after he loses the election, or whether he will abandon his newfound social media skills and disappear back to where he came from?