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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2010, 03:41:16 AM »
I wonder if Phil will continue to contribute to the fan sites after he loses the election, or whether he will abandon his newfound social media skills and disappear back to where he came from?

Undisclosed mediocrity is never a good starting point for a tenure.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2010, 09:55:21 AM »
I wonder if Phil will continue to contribute to the fan sites after he loses the election, or whether he will abandon his newfound social media skills and disappear back to where he came from?

I honestly dont blame him for not wanting to converse with some around here. He is obviously not here to pick a fight with members at this forum. However, some people around here on the other hand I'm not so sure. Looks like they are happy to pick a fight with whoever. Sorry, just my observation.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2010, 10:43:42 AM »
I wonder if Phil will continue to contribute to the fan sites after he loses the election, or whether he will abandon his newfound social media skills and disappear back to where he came from?

I honestly dont blame him for not wanting to converse with some around here. He is obviously not here to pick a fight with members at this forum. However, some people around here on the other hand I'm not so sure. Looks like they are happy to pick a fight with whoever. Sorry, just my observation.
I dont think it is so much about 'picking fights', more to do with the fact that some on this forum have valid questions surrounding Phil's campaign, and would like solid answers on how he plans to achieve what he promises as opposed to dodging the questions or answering them in a very round-a-bout way.

If he has put himself out there (by joining numerous forums) to get votes off the tiger faithful, then he should be well prepared to answer the questions required to gain there votes.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2010, 08:10:25 PM »
OK, i have thought about this, and I can't possibly vote for either of the web wizards.  they have cynically used the fansites to post repetitive rhetoric about their campaigns.  They probably werent on these sites before they decided to run and they probably wont be back.  Phil just cuts and pastes and doesnt answer questions.  Neil has trashed the board and the club and drawn unwanted negative press.

good riddance to both of them

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2010, 09:32:32 PM »
I dont think it is so much about 'picking fights', more to do with the fact that some on this forum have valid questions surrounding Phil's campaign, and would like solid answers on how he plans to achieve what he promises as opposed to dodging the questions or answering them in a very round-a-bout way.

If he has put himself out there (by joining numerous forums) to get votes off the tiger faithful, then he should be well prepared to answer the questions required to gain there votes.

I hear what you are saying. I'm very suspicious the only reason we got a question & answer session from Gary was because a thread like this was started. I'm just think some take pleasure in trying to shoot down the one person that wants to at least open the lines of debate. Sounds like to me he is a listener. I quite like the thought of somebody on our board who wants to listen.

Look at times I'm sure we all will let our passion get the better of us. But I want the answers from the current board first.   How long have some of them been there? I know next to nothing about them. Where are their answers to the questions? At least this bloke gets Gary to the table to hear his answers.

I loved that Q&A session, made my week. However, according to Gary in his Q&A he prefers a policy of gagging our board on social media and forums. Sorry, but to me thats a backward way of thinking. He wants to gag them from the very people, the Tiger faithful that they are meant to represent via our votes. That does not sound like a way to think in 2010. :gotigers

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2010, 10:30:45 PM »
You should go to the AGM if you want to raise and discuss issues with board members. Or ring them up and have a chat.
Social media is not where the club should be airing its laundry mate. Not now, not ever.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2010, 10:42:03 PM »

I hear what you are saying. I'm very suspicious the only reason we got a question & answer session from Gary was because a thread like this was started.


If you thought March organised a Q&A session on local media because threads like this started on fan forums then you are seriously out of touch with the reality.

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I'm just think some take pleasure in trying to shoot down the one person that wants to at least open the lines of debate.


Only one poster (Carvels Ring) jumped on his case from the start as I read it.  Go back over the posts and point out to me one that didn't give Phil Anderson the benefit of doubt by asking questions of him first.  It was his responses that most didn't like and luckily for us, that's just how it is in a democracy.

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Sounds like to me he is a listener. I quite like the thought of somebody on our board who wants to listen.


The more of his posts I read, the more he sounded like a whinger to me, not a listener.  He didn't listen to one question that was being asked of him, just whinged and bleated about past mistakes.

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Look at times I'm sure we all will let our passion get the better of us. But I want the answers from the current board first.   How long have some of them been there? I know next to nothing about them. Where are their answers to the questions? At least this bloke gets Gary to the table to hear his answers.


He has done nothing of the sort.  The club has been very pro-active in recent times from most members of the executive, directly addressing the need to keep our members and supporters more informed and engaged with the club.  Gale, Cameron, Jackson have all had a crack and now March.  That's small steps forward in reality but giant steps forward in attitude.  Phil Anderson and his forum posts have not made one scrap of difference to this shift in attitude by the club that began very soon after Gale was appointed.

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I loved that Q&A session, made my week. However, according to Gary in his Q&A he prefers a policy of gagging our board on social media and forums. Sorry, but to me thats a backward way of thinking. He wants to gag them from the very people, the Tiger faithful that they are meant to represent via our votes. That does not sound like a way to think in 2010. :gotigers


Did you like the other Q&A sessions I also mentioned?  And as for March "preferring a policy of gagging our board on social and media forums"?  Get your facts right before you dribble crap.  Here is what was posted:

As part of the election process the board decided not to endorse any candidates and let the members decide. Board and Richmond Football Club policy does not allow board members or staff to post on forums for governance and confidentiality reasons however this year, RFC_Official came on board to keep our members continually informed of what was happening at the club.

The board decided not to endorse any candidates.  Means that the new guys get a fair crack, a level playing field.  How much fairer can you get than that?

The RFC policy does not allow board members or staff to post on forums for governance and confidentially reasons.  How on earth is that March "preferring a policy of gagging our board on social and media forums"?  How many times have we gone off our nuts in here for supposed 'leaks' in the club - and yet you lambast March for stating the policy of the club in NOT allowing board members to chat on social media?

RFC_Official came on board to keep our members continually informed of what was happening at the club.  More communication by the club and not driven or influenced by Phil Anderson in any way shape or form.

You demand questions of the board and complain about knowing next to nothing about them, all the while sticking up for someone who has provided no more answers or information to you, more has just used the social media format to give voice to his gripe.  If you want to find out about any of the current board members then have a look on the club website, they all have a short bio outlining their history with the board and also their commercial connections.  If you want to find out more on them then it's just not hard to find out a lot more on any of them by using Google, after all, there is a fair bit about each of them in the public domain.  Phil Anderson and Neil McKay have a walk up start in getting their message out to the public because they are not restricted by any club policy but you seem to think this reflects badly on the 3 incumbents!  Give them a call, send them an email if you can't decide because you don't have enough information.  At least you will know who is fair dinkum if any respond.

As I see it, if you don't have a plan or an intent to fix the problem then shut up complaining about it in the first place.  And I haven't seen one plan or act of intent from either new candidate.  And I happen to think that the board is getting it's act together - slowly and not without a few bumps - but the direction is right, the plan is sound, and the action is solid.  Pretty simple choice really.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2010, 07:51:47 AM »
I didn't think I was too bad  :-\

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #113 on: November 30, 2010, 08:38:34 AM »
I didn't think I was too bad  :-\

 :)

Nah, I've seen worse!   ;)

Before I replied I went back over the threads to see if I was missing something, if my perception was skewed.  That's when I noticed that you were onto Phil from the start but I think everyone that responded did so in the same manner and that was to ask what he was going to change or bring to the table.  His responses were very disappointing to say the least and everyone bar a couple seemed to see that.

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #114 on: November 30, 2010, 08:45:09 AM »
oh dear, i started a frenzy :-\

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #115 on: November 30, 2010, 09:27:43 AM »
oh dear, i started a frenzy :-\


 :lol :rollin ;D

Actually I dont think anyone wanted to start a fight with Phillip

What people wanted was answers to very valid questios and what we've got from day 1 is not one direct answer on how he was going to fix things or why any of us should vote for him.

He lost me after day 1 with his fear mongering and continual avoidance of direct answers

But if that to some means I was looking top start a fight ..then I'll happily put my hand up and say GUILTY  :rollin
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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #116 on: November 30, 2010, 09:43:36 AM »
WP  mate, you are a troublemaker!

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #117 on: November 30, 2010, 10:10:49 AM »

But if that to some means I was looking top start a fight ..then I'll happily put my hand up and say GUILTY  :rollin

Stick to the topic ppl!   :banghead


Hah, I've always wanted to say that!!   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #118 on: November 30, 2010, 10:33:02 AM »
Smokey, you have moderator potential!  :clapping

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Re: Richmond Board Nomination
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2010, 11:00:06 AM »
All,

Let me state from the outset that I do not believe that people are out to pick a fight - some are just more passionate than others. After all we are all passionate tiger people. Directed passion is good for this forum and it is good for our footy club.

Re-stating my objectives when I nominated, my goal was to bring the Richmond supporter/member into a social media conversation. For the very first time our election was being conducted on line so this made sense. This was certainly undertaken on a number of forum sites and yes it is true a number of my posts have been duplicated as they were written on my blog - which was the major reason for commencing the campaign was to drive readers eyes to my blog. I hope that you are all viewing this as well.

One of the things that came about was there were a number of common questions and comments from a range of sites and these answers were placed on my blog and not individually on each forum site. These answers came about from me listening to what people have had to say.

On the issue of sponsorship - I have had discussions with a number of current Richmond sponsors already and I am gaining a better understanding as to what we must do with respect to our positioning going forward - suffice to say is that I am taking a pro-active approach about this. Being involved with international business as well as domestic business, I have some ideas that will assist the Richmond Football Club to further our involvement in the sponsorship arena as well.

On the issue of debt - I am not privy to the plan that the Richmond board are working on currently as it will not be ready till February 2011. If I am elected to the board then I will be made aware of this plan as it stands and only then will I be able to comment on it and assist with its development. So what can I say here? My only statement with respect to debt is that it must be eradicated to ensure the long term financial stability of our club. What is my plan to eradicate debt. This is a moot point as I am told that there is already a plan that is being worked on, just can't tell me what it is. So all I can say here is that when I get to see it then I can comment. The key issue here is that the debt has been in place for a long time and it is only this year that we have decided to do something about it. If this is negative, I do not detract from this. The interest bill alone on this debt would be somewhere near $2,000,000 over the past 6 years or so. I feel that this is something worth standing up for.

On the issue of a stand alone VFL club - this is very important. We will progress our players at a faster rate by having full control over our own team. We will get more people taking an interest in our VFL team watching a Richmond jumper rather than a Coburg jumper. Having all our kids playing in the one VFL team will draw a greater audience and if we play these games at punt road we can significantly benefit from our new facility with far greater revenues whilst being in full control of our costs for these events. Let me state that I have nothing against Coburg. Coburg is a fine club. I have also attended a number of games and lunches at Coburg watching our boys go round. The people involved with Coburg are good people, it is just that Richmond is Richmond and Coburg is not Richmond.

On the issue of Selling Home Games - this is very unfortunate that we have been forced to sell 2 home games this year. I understand why the board have gone down this path and it relates exclusively to our financial position. This takes me back to my position on debt. The board is ultimately responsible for the financial position of the Richmond Football Club. Our financial position is the result of board decisions over the past 5 years minimum. Again, the directors that are re-nominating have been on the board for 5, 6 and 8 years respectively. If we are being told that we have had to sell home games due to our financial position then we must look at those that have responsibility for our financial position. Again, if this appears negative then I do not detract from this either as our membership in Victoria expects to see and should see 11 home games in Melbourne.

Suffice to say that the social media play is not negative for the Richmond Football Club - on the contrary - if it highlights some of the issues that we have as a football club then they are on the table to address. Do you honestly think that the general membership would have had the opportunity to voice their opinion without it? Do you honestly think that this length and type of discussion is bad for us? If the 3 directors re-nominated without challenge do you think that we would be engaging like this?

I hope that if nothing else there is an element of ensuring that we deal with the important issues at our footy club - whether or not I have gained any of your votes I hope that 2 things occur:

1. That all 2010 Richmond adult members feel that our elections are worth voting in and voicing our opinions.

2. That the debate continues after the election to ensure that our board delivers on all of the points raised in the election.

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