FFS, give the guy a break!
It's his first proper preseason since he has arrived at the club.
It is not his fault we picked him ahead of Heppell.
He is a tiger and we should support him.
I respect you for loving all things Richmond but Reece has been nothing short of sh17house since pulling on a Tigers jumper. Let's not sugarcoat it, he isn't even in our best 22 IMO. And that's saying something. If he was drafted at pick 40 in his draft he wouldn't have played many games IMO. And one more poor season would see him off the list. He has been that bad. We use him as a tagger FFS.
We made a MASSIVE mistake in wasting pick 6 on him. All the preseasons in the world isn't going to change his natural instinct of sh/7ing his nest every time he gets the footy.
I hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it.
All fair points. Never player big league myself, just inter high school stuff. Had a soft tissue injury one year and found it difficult to play at 50% of my already reduced ability.
All I am saying is he came to the club with foot spurs and couldn't train for two consecutive years. Then he tore his hamstring off the bone and could train again. This time he has got his body right and has absolutely no excuses. If he has a poor year I would look at trading him if we are offered something good in exchange - even a second round pick.
However, in the mean time he has my full support. He gave up an offer to go west too as he loves the team and that gives him extra brownie points!!
Is that reasonable bt?
As I said YBB I do respect you for your support of our Tigers. I just say it as I see it. And I don't rate Reece at all. I hope he kills it for the clubs sake but IMO Reece is just another one of FJ mistakes. I don't rate Griffiths as you know and don't think much of Astbury either. Both need to put up or stop wasting spots on our lists. I cannot stand to watch big blokes like those two tackling with their arms and not their bodies. Both seem more interested in not getting hurt.... At least Reece has a go.
and yet you support that squib vickery. go figure. and im not having a shot at you either. you can see the obvious weaknesses in some or most but put blinkers on with others, i do ithe same also but i wont give em as long as you have given vickery.
your right about reece as you are with most of our players, hes is a wasted top 10 pick the lack of awareness and the panic attacks means at best we have an average player. this is not bagging or bitching as some will try to paint it. its calling it as one sees it.
Claw I get you don't rate Vickery but he has done more than those two I mentioned. Tyrone is not my favorite either but he is better than you give him credit for. IMO he is still young for his type of player and has a fairly decent return to this time for a young ruckman/forward. His is not elite by any stretch but deserves his place on our list. To be honest I think I'm pretty harsh/ but fair on most of my appraisals of our players.
Anyway I hope they prove all us armchair warriors wrong and become very good players for our beloved Tigers. We need a couple like Reece and Tyrone to stand up and become players otherwise we are going nowhere.
yeah your probably right hes done more than astbury and griffiths. im highly critical of griffiths like yourself , have issues with astbury but am prepared to wait and see at least one more yr.
without a doubt ordinary sums up all three to date. and there can be no sugar coating it thats what they have been.
i may sit here in 2yrs time with egg all over my face as i cant see vickery improving. yet all have done basically is comment on his performances to date and they have in the main been ordinary. i can undestand why you would give a 200cm player like him one more yr. we really need him to become a very good player there is noone else in the wings.
i think my biggest gripe in all this is the lack of other options in our system and ffs ive complained for yrs now about those options or lack there of or simoilar type of option.
just to finish i think my biggest gripe with vickery is he only plays the game on his terms.
put it this way you me a lot of people including blokes like breereton are highly critical of vickery and griffiths yet the only real other option is mckenzie a 18yo taken at pick 10000. or another ruck/fwd option in matchstick mcbean.
