Where will Richmond finish in 2005?

[mightytiges]

The AFL site's poll question for today is where will Richmond finish in 2005?

The results so far are:   

1-4: 5%
5-8: 35%
9-12: 28%
13-16: 33%


   

[JohnF]

No higher than bottom 4. Probably 14th or there abouts.

[froars]

Hopefully 16th, if we can't make the 8.

[LondonTiger]

12th

I think we will finish above the following

16th - Hawthorn - got rid of too many senior players, got rid of vice captain, No real stand out captain unless they give it to crawford.  VERY, very small list.  An injury to Spider would cement them in last spot

15th - Nth Melbourne - Could go down to the wire to finish on the bottom.  I think with the retirements and the strange drafting applied, I think they are in for a torrid year

14th - Collingwood -  They are an average team, and I believe other lists and coaching changes will keep these guys down

13th - Adelaide - Poor list, poor draw, a few players ready for retirement.  Depending on the New lease of life from McLeod, we will either finish here or there

Every other team should finish above us next year

I think we will get around 7, 8 or 9 wins

[LondonTiger]

And the best way to predict?

http://www.allthestats.com/other/ladpredict.php

[mightytiges]

And the best way to predict?

http://www.allthestats.com/other/ladpredict.php

Well here's mine.

Team W L PF PA Pts Perc
 
Port Adel  17 5 2162 2018 68 107.1
St Kilda  17 5 2150 2030 68 105.9
Bris Lions  17 5 2144 2036 68 105.3
West Coast  16 6 2144 2036 64 105.3
Geelong  16 6 2138 2042 64 104.7
Sydney  12 10 2102 2078 48 101.1
Essendon  12 10 2090 2090 48 100.0
Fremantle  11 11 2102 2078 44 101.1
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Melbourne  11 11 2090 2090 44 100.0
Carlton  10 12 2072 2108 40 98.2
Kangaroos  8 14 2066 2114 32 97.7
Collingwood  8 14 2060 2120 32 97.1
Adelaide  7 15 2042 2138 28 95.5
Richmond  7 15 2030 2150 28 94.4
W Bulldogs  4 18 2024 2156 16 93.8
Hawthorn  3 19 2012 2168 12 92.8

[LondonTiger]

And mine

Team Pl W L PF PA Pts Perc
St Kilda 22 19 3 2230 1950 76 114.3
West Coast 22 18 4 2214 1966 72 112.6
Port Adel 22 16 6 2226 1954 64 113.9
Bris Lions 22 16 6 2172 2008 64 108.1
Geelong 22 16 6 2162 2018 64 107.1
Sydney 22 15 7 2138 2042 60 104.7
Melbourne 22 13 9 2084 2096 52 99.4
Essendon 22 11 11 2090 2090 44 100.0
 
Fremantle 22 10 12 2096 2084 40 100.5
Carlton 22 9 13 2054 2126 36 96.6
W Bulldogs 22 8 14 2054 2126 32 96.6
Richmond 22 8 14 2004 2176 32 92.0
Adelaide 22 7 15 2044 2136 28 95.6
Collingwood 22 4 18 1994 2186 16 91.2
Kangaroos 22 3 19 1952 2228 12 87.6
Hawthorn 22 3 19 1926 2254 12 85.4

[mightytiges]

14th - Collingwood -  They are an average team, and I believe other lists and coaching changes will keep these guys down

If they lose Tarrant or puff puff long term then the maggies will struggle to win a game. Their whole gameplan revolves on those two in their forward otherwise they are stuffed as you can shut out easily one of them. 

Craig and Laidley remind me of Spud in different ways. Laidley's recruiting of rejects and Craig's matchday coaching. That Crows v Roos game late last year where 1 goal was kicked between them in perfect conditions for footy was up there with some of Spud's efforts in terms of the worst footy spectacle-wise you will ever see  .

[cub]

Those ladders dont look to bad MT and LT. You have to consider that we won 4 games last year, we have got rid of Spud and got Wallace that should give us 1 or 2 more - got rid of some real duds that should not of been playing and stocked up on what looks like good young blood - maybe worth another win or 2. That will put us 6 to 8 wins and with a bit of momentum and confidence (which we had none of last year) who knows. So in my totally biased hopeful opinion anywhere between 6 - 12 odd wins. It would be really hard seeing us make the 8 BUT stranger things have happened. Then steady improvement for a Flag within the next 3 - 4 years 

[cub]

Ok I figured out that all the stats thing here is my ever optimistic one I picked at 05:30 in the morning in about 10 mins

Interesting to see who gets the closest on this thing.

St Kilda 22 19 3 2254 1926 76 117.0
Port Adel 22 16 6 2268 1912 64 118.6
Geelong 22 16 6 2204 1976 64 111.5
West Coast 22 15 7 2184 1996 60 109.4
Bris Lions 22 15 7 2156 2024 60 106.5
Sydney 22 14 8 2148 2032 56 105.7
Richmond 22 13 9 2094 2086 52 100.3
Melbourne 22 12 10 2114 2066 48 102.3
 
Fremantle 22 11 11 2128 2052 44 103.7
Essendon 22 11 11 2102 2078 44 101.1
Kangaroos 22 10 12 2084 2096 40 99.4
Adelaide 22 9 13 2054 2126 36 96.6
Collingwood 22 6 16 1954 2226 24 87.7
Carlton 22 4 18 1938 2242 16 86.4
W Bulldogs 22 3 19 1890 2290 12 82.5
Hawthorn 22 2 20 1868 2312 8 80.7


This does not really fit with my above post but WTF 

[Life goes on]

Will finish 7th

[WilliamPowell]

I reckon somewhere between 7th and 11th 

If we get off to the flying start I am expecting then anything will become possible...........................

It is the second half to the season that will determine the finish IMO - that is how much we (read: the young blokes) drop away

[tiga]

We still have a bit of rebuilding to do and most of the new recruits will probably need 6-8 games under their belt so I think we will finish 9th. Obviously I'm hoping for much higher but I had a bet with someone on another forum last year that we would make the 8 which obviously backfired on me so I will be much more conservative this year. I think if Cogs can stay on the park for most of the year, and he forms a good combination with Simmo or the Nobel one they should do some serious damage to the opposition and may even put us in the 8.