Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Ruanaidh]

You seem to think you know everything about everything

Just sayin

Au Contraire!....(sticking with the French theme). There are cyclical, societal road maps throughout recorded history. As Pink Floyd once stated: "we have been down this road many times before". All I do is learn from history and restate lessons as I see it. Your welcome to posit alternative views... I only get uppity when ad hominems are caste. As you have noticed I then reply in kind.

Damo, have you studied the fall of the Roman Empire? There are parallels with Europe today which are striking. Apart from the fact that rather than being supplanted by the wonderfully creative and cultured Visigoths we are under attack from a genetically and spiritually inferior culture.

[Diocletian]

Not sure the Roman Empire willingly invited the Visigoths to come and live amongst them either....

[Chuck17]

I watched Spartacus on Netflix and by all that is holy in the empire it would have been good to be a Roman of note back in those times

[Diocletian]

You should watch Caligula Chucky.....

[Chuck17]

is it on netflix?

[Diocletian]

Not likely Chucky....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula_(film)

[Chuck17]

Thanks, the support cast has piqued my interest, i will give it a go

[Ruanaidh]

Not sure the Roman Empire willingly invited the Visigoths to come and live amongst them either....

Yes they did. There were Visigoth (and other) enclaves and representatives in the military, administration and Politics. Once made citizens, migrant populations also had access to the Roman equivalent of welfare - guaranteed grain allocations. Which coincidently caused massive grief to producers who gave up their grain as a tax, some even allowing their lands to become fallow. Sound familiar? Add to that the emasculation of Roman men who were increasingly effete when compared to the newcomers....as they say in the classics - the rest is history.

 When the external Visigoth armies attacked, the 5th column activated across many fronts.

The things I do for you blokes. Just scoured the interweb for a synopsis:

https://www.usu.edu/markdamen/1320hist&civ/chapters/08ROMFAL.htm

[Diocletian]

Yes there were  some striking similarities but note I said "willingly invited"....Valens was hardly the Roman Merkel and there was certainly no virtue signalling, guilt or self-hatred motivating things ......it's far more likely though, that there were some motivations that these days we'd assosciate more with neo-cons & capitalists than leftists.....

[🏅Dooks]

Destruction, more like it.....France has fallen! ...or has it? Unlike the pussy backlash to Trump's win by assorted SJW's....When the Left and Islamists demand payment for their support and the Rothschild (Werner) sock puppet caves, you will see what happens when when real men get angry.... When the dust settles the Nationalists will see this day as the day they began to turn the tide of Collectivism.

Well said, just wished I knew what the hell you are talking about.

 

Why thank you .... as for your confusion, just pull up a chair and watch the cinematic and inevitable political ramifications play out

Predictions please.

Increase in migration and 'no go zones'....Further Islamists attacks and acquiescence in the name of 'tolerance'. Consequential rise is support for Le Pen and the instigation of militias for self and community protection. The inevitable battle on many  fronts as this clash of ideologies intensifies....France will also see austerity style measures originating from tanking tourism receipts and resultant taxation imposts.

Apologies for the delayed response. Id argue the first two-three lines are pretty much more than 50% probable and already panning out but it could all end up differently in the end. Who knows.

I have one more question Ruandog - Whats your probability for the whole box and dice to occur?

[Ruanaidh]

Destruction, more like it.....France has fallen! ...or has it? Unlike the pussy backlash to Trump's win by assorted SJW's....When the Left and Islamists demand payment for their support and the Rothschild (Werner) sock puppet caves, you will see what happens when when real men get angry.... When the dust settles the Nationalists will see this day as the day they began to turn the tide of Collectivism.

Well said, just wished I knew what the hell you are talking about.

 

Why thank you .... as for your confusion, just pull up a chair and watch the cinematic and inevitable political ramifications play out

Predictions please.

Increase in migration and 'no go zones'....Further Islamists attacks and acquiescence in the name of 'tolerance'. Consequential rise is support for Le Pen and the instigation of militias for self and community protection. The inevitable battle on many  fronts as this clash of ideologies intensifies....France will also see austerity style measures originating from tanking tourism receipts and resultant taxation imposts.

Apologies for the delayed response. Id argue the first two-three lines are pretty much more than 50% probable and already panning out but it could all end up differently in the end. Who knows.

I have one more question Ruandog - Whats your probability for the whole box and dice to occur?

1400 years of this ever increasing (in numbers) death cult suggests 100 percent. I don't have to be 'Nostradamos' to also read current trend lines. 2 choices: surrender or fight. There is no middle ground with this totalitarian ideology.

Maybe the Buddhists and New Age theoreticians were right and this is a 'testing place' where spirits (for want of a better term) incarnate to suffer trevails in order to energise, experience and improve. Now I'm waffling.

[Ruanaidh]

Yes there were  some striking similarities but note I said "willingly invited"....Valens was hardly the Roman Merkel and there was certainly no virtue signalling, guilt or self-hatred motivating things ......it's far more likely though, that there were some motivations that these days we'd assosciate more with neo-cons & capitalists than leftists.....

Ah yes....the age old quandary of history - the reading of it

[1965]

A Labor Lite budget and what happens...

Ipsos and Newspoll surveys both put Labor on 53% and Coalition on 47%.

The Libs and Turnbull are in trouble both from within and outside party.

How long before a challenge and who it will be.

I'm hoping for Dutton. 

[WilliamPowell]

First we had FAKE News

Now we have Fake Refugees says Peter Dutton

What else can we "Fake" 

[Diocletian]

Yes because "genuine" refugees often return to their homeland for a holiday...