Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Tigeritis™©®]

 

now let's see who on this forum can honestly take there labour glasses off and admit what a load of rubbish this carbon dioxide tax really is. I'd like to hear from MT and WP and all the other labour die hards. Let's not resort to saying anything about Liberal or Tony Abbott just an honest assessment of what you truly think about this tax now that your messiah Julia Gillard has bent over to the demands of the greens and brought in a tax she promised she'd NEVER implement.   

[WilliamPowell]

now let's see who on this forum can honestly take there labour glasses off and admit what a load of rubbish this carbon dioxide tax really is. I'd like to hear from MT and WP and all the other labour die hards. Let's not resort to saying anything about Liberal or Tony Abbott just an honest assessment of what you truly think about this tax now that your messiah Julia Gillard has bent over to the demands of the greens and brought in a tax she promised she'd NEVER implement.  

  Who's wearing glasses exactly?

I am not sure what it is you're asking Mr Tigra because your question appears to be clouded by your hatred of the current govt.

You ask for an "honest assessment of what you truly think about this tax" and then you add this " now that your messiah Julia Gillard has bent over to the demands of the greens and brought in a tax she promised she'd NEVER implement."  

Honestly, how can you suggest on one hand that we don't bring in anything about Liberal or Mr (we'll plant trees) Abbott but in the same sentence you link the question to a politcial view point by your "messiah" comment?

Am I right in assuming that the political side of things only applies to the Govt in this debate and not the opposition

So you just let me know which is it you want me to comment on so I stick to the rules of the game?

The tax itself?

The compensation package?

How it effects me and my family?

Climate change in general?

The govt? The PM?

The oppositions response to it?

Happy to comment on any of the above just want to know which ones I need to remove the political viewpoint from and which ones need a the politcial  

[Tigeritis™©®]

now let's see who on this forum can honestly take there labour glasses off and admit what a load of rubbish this carbon dioxide tax really is. I'd like to hear from MT and WP and all the other labour die hards. Let's not resort to saying anything about Liberal or Tony Abbott just an honest assessment of what you truly think about this tax now that your messiah Julia Gillard has bent over to the demands of the greens and brought in a tax she promised she'd NEVER implement.  

  Who's wearing glasses exactly?

I am not sure what it is you're asking Mr Tigra because your question appears to be clouded by your hatred of the current govt.

You ask for an "honest assessment of what you truly think about this tax" and then you add this " now that your messiah Julia Gillard has bent over to the demands of the greens and brought in a tax she promised she'd NEVER implement."  

Honestly, how can you suggest on one hand that we don't bring in anything about Liberal or Mr (we'll plant trees) Abbott but in the same sentence you link the question to a politcial view point by your "messiah" comment?

Am I right in assuming that the political side of things only applies to the Govt in this debate and not the opposition

So you just let me know which is it you want me to comment on so I stick to the rules of the game?

The tax itself?

The compensation package?

How it effects me and my family?

Climate change in general?

The govt? The PM?

The oppositions response to it?

Happy to comment on any of the above just want to know which ones I need to remove the political viewpoint from and which ones need a the politcial  

ok WP, I'd be happy to read your answers to all those questions. I obviously hate the whole concept of ANY carbon tax or price because I truly beleive it's a clever excuse for a very quick grab for much needed revenue.
That said Im truly interested in your thoughts to each of those questions. Thanks.   

[WilliamPowell]

ok WP, I'd be happy to read your answers to all those questions. I obviously hate the whole concept of ANY carbon tax or price because I truly beleive it's a clever excuse for a very quick grab for much needed revenue.
That said Im truly interested in your thoughts to each of those questions. Thanks.   

Fair enough

Ir will have to wait until this evening though when I'm at home

Bit pressed for time at the minute

[The Big Richo]

Just shut up and pay the tax you peasants, while rich blokes like me cheat the system and pay bugger all, and enjoy the fruits of your labour.

The world keeps on spinning.

[10 FLAGS]

Dont worry WP I'll help you out:

So you just let me know which is it you want me to comment on so I stick to the rules of the game?

The tax itself? The tax is a rort so that labor can try and balance their budget after wasting billions on dodgy schemes.

The compensation package? Is a fiasco of the highest order. Everyone is getting ripped off especially the pensioners etc.

How it effects me and my family? Everyone will get done over when companies pass on the price increases. We will pay more than what we get in compensation.

Climate change in general? Doesnt exist. Its a scam.

The govt? The PM? The worst government in the history of this nation, just after Rudds government. Everyone thought Gough was bad, Gough is a legend compared to these bozos atleast he gave us what we now know as medicare.

The oppositions response to it? Tony Abbott has told the truth. Its a big bad tax. Thats all it is.

How was that WP 

[WilliamPowell]

Dont worry WP I'll help you out:

So you just let me know which is it you want me to comment on so I stick to the rules of the game?

The tax itself? The tax is a rort so that labor can try and balance their budget after wasting billions on dodgy schemes.

The compensation package? Is a fiasco of the highest order. Everyone is getting ripped off especially the pensioners etc.

How it effects me and my family? Everyone will get done over when companies pass on the price increases. We will pay more than what we get in compensation.

Climate change in general? Doesnt exist. Its a scam.

The govt? The PM? The worst government in the history of this nation, just after Rudds government. Everyone thought Gough was bad, Gough is a legend compared to these bozos atleast he gave us what we now know as medicare.

The oppositions response to it? Tony Abbott has told the truth. Its a big bad tax. Thats all it is.

How was that WP 

Not even close Flagman 

[tiger101]

Typical labor. Buying votes with giving out free money to certain classes while others even the middle class will get a rise in there marginal tax bracket.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Dont worry WP I'll help you out:

So you just let me know which is it you want me to comment on so I stick to the rules of the game?

The tax itself? The tax is a rort so that labor can try and balance their budget after wasting billions on dodgy schemes.

The compensation package? Is a fiasco of the highest order. Everyone is getting ripped off especially the pensioners etc.

How it effects me and my family? Everyone will get done over when companies pass on the price increases. We will pay more than what we get in compensation.

Climate change in general? Doesnt exist. Its a scam.

The govt? The PM? The worst government in the history of this nation, just after Rudds government. Everyone thought Gough was bad, Gough is a legend compared to these bozos atleast he gave us what we now know as medicare.

The oppositions response to it? Tony Abbott has told the truth. Its a big bad tax. Thats all it is.

How was that WP 

spot on flags and Very very funny

[1965]

Interesting article on the so-called demise of the coal industry.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/07/12/3267115.htm

I have to wonder how long the Liberal party will put up with Abbott's negativity.

 

[tiger101]

Interesting article on the so-called demise of the coal industry.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/07/12/3267115.htm

I have to wonder how long the Liberal party will put up with Abbott's negativity.

 

You do know theres more then one mining company in Australia. So one mining company changing hands doesn't mean jobs won't be lost.
Plus this just shows countries are still buying up coal to burn to create cheap energy. While our government sells it oversea's they want us to stop using it and have to pay more for our power. How is that fair and how is that going to stop global emissions from rising.

[1965]

Interesting article on the so-called demise of the coal industry.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/07/12/3267115.htm

I have to wonder how long the Liberal party will put up with Abbott's negativity.

 

You do know theres more then one mining company in Australia. So one mining company changing hands doesn't mean jobs won't be lost.
Plus this just shows countries are still buying up coal to burn to create cheap energy. While our government sells it oversea's they want us to stop using it and have to pay more for our power. How is that fair and how is that going to stop global emissions from rising.

The point was that Abbott has been saying that the carbon tax "would "destroy" the coal industry".

A blatant scare tactic from Abbott.

And he says that Gillard can't be trusted.

 

[1965]

"Nationals senator Barnaby Joyce, who travelled with Mr Abbott to the Wambo Mine yesterday, said the takeover bid for Macarthur Coal would not dent the opposition's assault on the $23 carbon price.

"Just because they buy mines in other places doesn't stop them from closing down unprofitable mines, and they will become unprofitable when they bring in the carbon tax," Senator Joyce said. "Unprofitable mines will shut down."

A spokesman for Mr Abbott said last night mergers and acquisitions happened "all the time, whether the market is buoyant or weak - just look at the banks during the global financial crisis . . . the simple fact remains a carbon tax is bad for the coal industry, bad for coal workers and bad for communities which rely on coalmines for survival."

Macarthur's shares closed down 32c, or 2.8 per cent, at $11.08 yesterday as the market digested the impact of the carbon tax on the coal sector.

Peabody chairman and chief executive Greg Boyce said last night his company believed there was "significant value that can be created by managing Macarthur's portfolio of coal assets" focused on Queensland's Bowen Basin.

Peabody boasts that its coal fuels 2 per cent of global electricity generation and that it is a leader in "clean coal solutions"."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/foreign-takeover-bid-for-macarthur-boosts-gillards-carbon-sales-pitch-miner-bets-5bn-on-future-of-coal/story-e6frg9df-1226092727207


Two things

1. Barnaby Joyce is first class moron who thinks he knows better than the head of one of the largest coal companies in the world.

2. This is a company who is a leader in clean coal solutions wanting to invest 4.7 billion dollars in the australian coal industry even with a "great big new toxic" carbon tax looming.

 

[10 FLAGS]

look at all these socialists popping out supporting the carbon tax garbage and the resources tax rubbish ... its unbelievable. Labor has become a party of no hopers and losers who all wanna turn australia into a welfare state so that there surfie mates, the greens lobby and the gays - a bunch of losers can go buy hot dogs with their dole cheques. Australia's becoming a rabble with this mob. Oh and Climate Change is a hoax and a scam.

[1965]

look at all these socialists popping out supporting the carbon tax garbage and the resources tax rubbish ... its unbelievable. Labor has become a party of no hopers and losers who all wanna turn australia into a welfare state so that there loser surfie mates, green junket fliers and gayboy losers can go buy hot dogs with their dole cheques. Australia's becoming a rabble with this mob. Oh and Climate Change is a hoax and a scam.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY