And al, if you want to debate this, stop following the MT "road train" just so you can feed on any road kill left in his wake. Throwing a truck load of links at me is lazy and does not provide you with any credibility. This is not the first time you have done this. You are looking like the kid at school standing behind the bully saying "yeah what he says".
hmm. following the MT road train by commenting on the one part of your post. a truck load of links to scientific papers to back up what i say and counter your comment does not provide me with any credability? It is all a little clearer now.
I think you may have missed dook's point about the collection plate, but surely you are taking the pee when you say you put money on the plate and collected it. your not saying you're a god botherer are you? didn't you once accuse me of holding to Geez dick?
What planet are you from??? It is you who have missed the point. I WAS a friggin collector you tool. I collected the money pew by pew and then gave the money to the head collector.
Don't tell me what I do or don't understand. Dooks was talking about everyone chipping in for the collective good.
And what is a Geez dick?? 
You are clueless pal. Stick to your Simpsons quotes they make you appear far more intelligent.
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the point was.
I can't beleive it. You people are brainwashed.
When you go to your church, do you put money in the collection plate
think about it, im sure you'll get it eventually, given that someone as clueless as myself can.
as for the Geez dick comment that is my mistake. you actally said i waiting for him turn up so i could stick my finger in his palm, which seems to be slag off at at those that believe in that sort of thing which is why i was surprised when you indicated you were a churchie.
this was in response to me wanting facts before i made a decision on this particular subject, something that those that play for your team seem way short on being able to produce.
I have to admit i am surprised that you so quickly resort to name calling when you don't have an otherwise valid response.
al, how do you expect me to react when you call me a dick and then insinuate that I take money from the church plate all in one reply? If you look at my history, I think you will find I hardly ever resort to name calling unless severely provoked which I believe you did.
My reference to you back in 2009 (
let it go man its been 2 years) was in context with the conversation. You were sitting on the fence, the debate had nothing to do with religion and I was using an analogy to demonstrate that I believed you were a "doubting thomas." I did not know that you were religious, and personally coming from a religious background, the doubting thomas term was used frequently to refer to someone who refused to believe without proof.
Regarding Dooks comment, just because I think differently to you, doesn't mean that my interpretation was wrong, it was just different and no less inaccurate. If you look at his comment as it stands on its own you will see that.
Look, I don't expect us to be friends on this forum and to be honest you always rub me the wrong way, so from now on how about we agree to disagree and I will continue to debate with people I actually like and you can do the same. Sound fair?
