Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Fruity Morgan]

Good onya 65!  Keep the bastard honest 

[tiger101]

EU in trouble. Germany France can't afford to bail out everyone so Italy better get some quick reforms through. USA could very well have a double dip recession.
Not the best time to be introducing a new tax and don't repeat labor lines that we need certainty of a carbon tax for our economy. Cause at the moment our economy needs to be taxed less and given more confidence. Something Labor have/will never understand or do.

[1965]

EU in trouble. Germany France can't afford to bail out everyone so Italy better get some quick reforms through. USA could very well have a double dip recession.
Not the best time to be introducing a new tax and don't repeat labor lines that we need certainty of a carbon tax for our economy. Cause at the moment our economy needs to be taxed less and given more confidence. Something Labor have/will never understand or do.

What you mean in fat cat business people need "to be taxed less and given more confidence."

 

[tiger101]

EU in trouble. Germany France can't afford to bail out everyone so Italy better get some quick reforms through. USA could very well have a double dip recession.
Not the best time to be introducing a new tax and don't repeat labor lines that we need certainty of a carbon tax for our economy. Cause at the moment our economy needs to be taxed less and given more confidence. Something Labor have/will never understand or do.

What you mean in fat cat business people need "to be taxed less and given more confidence."

 

More money business makes more reinvesting they can do into there product and expand.
Retailers are struggling at the moment. Putting a new tax on every one (like labor love to do) won't help them. Thats just a fact. More money that goes from peoples wallets to government is less money that goes into the private sector that creates jobs.

[10 FLAGS]

EU in trouble. Germany France can't afford to bail out everyone so Italy better get some quick reforms through. USA could very well have a double dip recession.
Not the best time to be introducing a new tax and don't repeat labor lines that we need certainty of a carbon tax for our economy. Cause at the moment our economy needs to be taxed less and given more confidence. Something Labor have/will never understand or do.

What you mean in fat cat business people need "to be taxed less and given more confidence."

 

Our economy is being decimated by Labor on top of other international concerns. Labor isnt helping our situation. You see the results by what happened today on the ASX and theres a whole heap of other pointers like the retail industry and cost of living issues which are impacting Australians. Lack of confidence is hurting our economy and today everyones super got smashed as just one result of whats going on.

[mightytiges]

EU in trouble. Germany France can't afford to bail out everyone so Italy better get some quick reforms through. USA could very well have a double dip recession.
Not the best time to be introducing a new tax and don't repeat labor lines that we need certainty of a carbon tax for our economy. Cause at the moment our economy needs to be taxed less and given more confidence. Something Labor have/will never understand or do.

As the old saying goes if America sneezes then everyone else catches a cold. Thankfully the US jobs data overnight showed some positive news.

Anyway Abbott and the Libs are in favour of higher taxes themselves as they want to additionally tax every household via their "direct action" tax. Remember also Abbott at the last election wanted to tax business with a levy to pay for his paid maternity leave plan. Not to mention the previous Government was a increasingly high taxing government just as interest rates were higher then than now.

Commonwealth Government Taxation Revenue


Source: ABS

I actually agree tiger101 that taxes could be less but unless those in the mortgage belts are willing to give up all the middle class welfare they are receiving then they can't complain about taxes as the money has to come from somewhere. They can't have it both ways.

As for the retail sector - it hurts them that online shopping especially with a high Aussie dollar means Aussies no longer have to just accept goods in local retail stores costing far more than they do overseas. The habits of consumers and the times they are a changin'!
 

What you mean in fat cat business people need "to be taxed less and given more confidence."

 

Yep like crybabies Reinhart and Forrest trying to make out them having a combined personal wealth of $16 billion somehow makes the average Aussie better off  . Gina's made most of her $10b under the current Government's reign and Forbes claims she'll eventually end up with $100b  .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8600419/Australian-woman-predicted-to-become-worlds-richest-person.html

[tiger101]

I actually agree tiger101 that taxes could be less but unless those in the mortgage belts are willing to give up all the middle class welfare they are receiving then they can't complain about taxes as the money has to come from somewhere. They can't have it both ways.

We currently have a good balance of taxes currently in my opinion. What we dont need is this new carbon tax that will just add extra welfare(compensation).
By the way S&P downgraded America from triple A rating. Which is no surprise but not good news.

[Fruity Morgan]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

[1965]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

Discuss?

Thought you had given up the teaching game?

 

[Fruity Morgan]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

Discuss?

Thought you had given up the teaching game?

 

lol, i still mark a few papers here and there

[tiger101]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

There is times to reform the hole tax system which I fully support.
I think we need a full system reform of the tax system. But it's probably not the best time to do that currently when confidence to shot to pieces and sectors of the economy outside of minerals are struggling. But Labor aren't addressing either of these problems all there doing is creating a new tax that will drive up cost of living and no one can deny that.

[1965]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

There is times to reform the hole tax system which I fully support.
I think we need a full system reform of the tax system. But it's probably not the best time to do that currently when confidence to shot to pieces and sectors of the economy outside of minerals are struggling. But Labor aren't addressing either of these problems all there doing is creating a new tax that will drive up cost of living and no one can deny that.

 

Love your persistence.

One question if things are so dire where is Tony Rabbitt this week?

 

[tiger101]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

There is times to reform the hole tax system which I fully support.
I think we need a full system reform of the tax system. But it's probably not the best time to do that currently when confidence to shot to pieces and sectors of the economy outside of minerals are struggling. But Labor aren't addressing either of these problems all there doing is creating a new tax that will drive up cost of living and no one can deny that.

 

Love your persistence.

One question if things are so dire where is Tony Rabbitt this week?

 

On holidays like most students/workers/politicians have.

[1965]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

There is times to reform the hole tax system which I fully support.
I think we need a full system reform of the tax system. But it's probably not the best time to do that currently when confidence to shot to pieces and sectors of the economy outside of minerals are struggling. But Labor aren't addressing either of these problems all there doing is creating a new tax that will drive up cost of living and no one can deny that.

 

Love your persistence.

One question if things are so dire where is Tony Rabbitt this week?

 

On holidays like most students/workers/politicians have.

The country can't be too much up the creek then, eh?

 

[tiger101]

It seems from readin this thread that some of you think any form of taxation is wrong.
Discuss

There is times to reform the hole tax system which I fully support.
I think we need a full system reform of the tax system. But it's probably not the best time to do that currently when confidence to shot to pieces and sectors of the economy outside of minerals are struggling. But Labor aren't addressing either of these problems all there doing is creating a new tax that will drive up cost of living and no one can deny that.

 

Love your persistence.

One question if things are so dire where is Tony Rabbitt this week?

 

On holidays like most students/workers/politicians have.

The country can't be too much up the creek then, eh?

 

You do know Gillard takes holidays and Swan fills in as PM like Bishop is filling in for Abbott currently while his on holidays don't you.
Just making sure that you unfairly don't discredit someone for taking the same amount of holidays as the person you support.