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« Reply #615 on: August 19, 2011, 06:39:45 PM »
what?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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« Reply #616 on: August 19, 2011, 06:58:15 PM »
If the liberal senate gets found guilty then another Liberal will replace her.
Just like how NSW Senator Helen Coonan is retiring but being replaced by another liberal person.


You have either missed the point or deliberately deflected the issue in the style of a true politician.

The Labor Party have been quiet about the whole Liberal Senator Fisher shoplifting saga but the Liberals have been very vocal about the Labor Mr Thompson MP saga.

A respectful silence from one party and the rabid rants from the power hungry opposition.

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Wake up and smell the coffee.

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« Reply #617 on: August 19, 2011, 07:51:08 PM »
If the liberal senate gets found guilty then another Liberal will replace her.
Just like how NSW Senator Helen Coonan is retiring but being replaced by another liberal person.


You have either missed the point or deliberately deflected the issue in the style of a true politician.

The Labor Party have been quiet about the whole Liberal Senator Fisher shoplifting saga but the Liberals have been very vocal about the Labor Mr Thompson MP saga.

A respectful silence from one party and the rabid rants from the power hungry opposition.

 :thumbsup

Wake up and smell the coffee.
The hole point of being in politics is to get into government. Now if only one seat was the difference that would land you into government and a persons actions was inappropriate then I'd be making a song and dance out of it as well(like the liberals are)

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« Reply #618 on: August 20, 2011, 05:58:06 AM »

From http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-19/cassidy-see-you-thomson-raise-you-wilkie/2845762

"Craig Thomson has set a few Coalition supporters' hearts a flutter this week - and caused Labor supporters to think about their mortality."

"Only opposition MPs are talking about criminal behaviour. The NSW police aren't even investigating the allegations against him."

"Essentially that remains a matter between Thomson and his union. The most that can be levelled against him now as a politician is that he once showed poor judgment."

Storm in a teacup. Another example of the depths to which the power hungry Libs will sink to in their "at any cost" bid to force an election.

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« Reply #619 on: August 20, 2011, 04:42:08 PM »
If the liberal senate gets found guilty then another Liberal will replace her.
Just like how NSW Senator Helen Coonan is retiring but being replaced by another liberal person.


You have either missed the point or deliberately deflected the issue in the style of a true politician.

The Labor Party have been quiet about the whole Liberal Senator Fisher shoplifting saga but the Liberals have been very vocal about the Labor Mr Thompson MP saga.

A respectful silence from one party and the rabid rants from the power hungry opposition.

 :thumbsup

Wake up and smell the coffee.
The hole point of being in politics is to get into government. Now if only one seat was the difference that would land you into government and a persons actions was inappropriate then I'd be making a song and dance out of it as well(like the liberals are)
Both sides do it but that's what's wrong with many pollies. More interested in themselves and their own egos even if it's at expense of what's best for the country. Abbott is the worst as he flip flops on every issue even if it was/is Liberal policy. Reminds me of this politics student at uni I bumped into at a party way back in my uni days who boasted about how he could win debates while arguing a position he was actually against in real life. So much for standing by your principles  ::).

Btw I agree tiger101, I reckon Labor will dump Thompson at preselection once the federal election is due in two years time. 

Back to the carbon debate - it has really brought out the nutters on the (far) Right. Pauline Hanson is now back for her 9th election attempt  :sleep (and the free taxpayers dollars that come with it  ::) ) after the loonies on the Parliament lawn the other day told her to and then there's the LNP candidate in Queensland that hoped Gillard would go the same way as JFK  :help. These fruitloops are just copying the ultra-conservative Tea Party nutjobs in the USA and bringing it to Australia :help. The Libs/Nats seem to have abandoned their traditional links to British Conservatism as they are at odds with David Cameron. Even had Barry O'Farrell at COAG compare Gillard to Margaret Thatcher  :o.
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« Reply #620 on: August 23, 2011, 12:58:31 AM »
From the looks of yesterdays job cuts and the future outlook of more and from Paul Howes comments on skynews sunday agenda it looks like the Dutch Disease is about to hit us.

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« Reply #621 on: August 23, 2011, 02:26:46 PM »
From the looks of yesterdays job cuts and the future outlook of more and from Paul Howes comments on skynews sunday agenda it looks like the Dutch Disease is about to hit us.


You need to do a little more reading on this theory and a little less scare mongering.

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« Reply #622 on: August 23, 2011, 02:48:34 PM »
heard the term a number of times too '65

it's when exploiting your natural resources causes harm to other sectors of the economy.

Also heard mention a number of times that a resources tax would help prevent it, if set up appropriately
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #623 on: August 23, 2011, 02:55:25 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease

Interesting read.


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Investing in education and infrastructure is able to increase the competitiveness of the manufacturing sector

Hmmmmm
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

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« Reply #624 on: August 23, 2011, 03:48:48 PM »
Manufacturings been stuffed in Australia for over 2 decades. These industrys cant compete with the Chinese and the Indians who pay slave wages in factorys etc. Where an industry can no longer compete it goes out of business thats the end result. By trying to fabricate a situation where you take out of the resources industry and give it to the manufactures you create a socialism in the economy that is bad for everyone because in the end instead of having 1 good industry and 1 bad industry you get 2 bad industrys. Labor should give up. They dont know how to run the economy they cant even run a chook raffle. Theyre effin hopeless. A clueless bunch of socialists bludging of the Australian taxpayers most of whom have never had a real job and just worked as advisors in unions or the ALP. Its just a disgrace.

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« Reply #625 on: August 23, 2011, 03:56:54 PM »
it's not about taking from one industry to give to and prop up another, flags

It's about stopping too much money from coming into the country at once, thus driving up the value of the dollar and impacting your local manufacturing industry.

If the manufacturing industry has been stuffed for 20 years why is only labour to blame ? both parties have had a fair go in that time?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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« Reply #626 on: August 23, 2011, 05:09:21 PM »
A clueless bunch of socialists bludging of the Australian taxpayers most of whom have never had a real job and just worked as advisors in unions or the ALP. Its just a disgrace.



Julie Bishop - Lawyer

Warren Truss - a third generation farmer

Joe Hockey - finance and banking lawyer

Christopher Pyne - entered politics at the age of 25 (ie career wbanker)

Joe Hockey - finance and banking lawyer (another wbanker)

A mix of professional people you would expect to be politicians.

But the leader of the opposition: Tony Abbott - Journalist and Plant Manager at Pioneer Concrete.

Journalist (read scum) and a concrete mixer. Real quality there.


 

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #627 on: August 23, 2011, 05:18:57 PM »


And in the Government

PM is a solictor,

Wayne Swan was a University lecturer in Public Policy,

K Rudd was a diplomat

Stephen Smith - Solictor,

Nicola Roxon - Judge's Associate (lawyer)

Anthony Albanese - economist


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« Reply #628 on: August 23, 2011, 05:28:14 PM »
Bill Shorten - Unionist

Greg Combet - Unionist

Chris Evans - Unionist

Simon Crean - Unionist

Martin Ferguson - Unionist.

To be honest most people that want to be politicians are either going to work in a union or be a political staffer before hand because there interested in that kind of work also.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #629 on: August 23, 2011, 05:29:58 PM »
seems like the common factor in both lists is lawyers..if we want good government i reckon we need a broader cross section of the community....how about some one eyed tiger fans