Australian Politics thread [merged]

[J Buckthorn]

Putana dishonesto

[Dubstep Dookie]

Putana dishonesto

Yeah, but Abbott is no better

[1965]

An amusing article from The Brisbane Times.


Devious mastermind Mr Rabbit celebrates carbon tax victory

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/devious-mastermind-mr-rabbit-celebrates-carbon-tax-victory-20111013-1llpq.html#ixzz1agl3cgn2

[tiger101]

An amusing article from The Brisbane Times.


Devious mastermind Mr Rabbit celebrates carbon tax victory

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/devious-mastermind-mr-rabbit-celebrates-carbon-tax-victory-20111013-1llpq.html#ixzz1agl3cgn2

and these people get paid to write gibberish BS like that
 

[1965]

Carbon tax repeal could cost millions
By Jeremy Thompson
Updated October 18, 2011 12:37:03

A constitutional law expert has warned the Federal Opposition's promise to repeal the carbon price could cost taxpayers millions of dollars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-18/carbon-tax-repeal-could-cost-billions/3576874

[tiger101]

Carbon tax repeal could cost millions
By Jeremy Thompson
Updated October 18, 2011 12:37:03

A constitutional law expert has warned the Federal Opposition's promise to repeal the carbon price could cost taxpayers millions of dollars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-18/carbon-tax-repeal-could-cost-billions/3576874

I hate how ALP put in clauses in everything they do(prime example desalination plant). Imagine if Liberals done that with work choices. Liberals have stated though there is a way around alot of these clauses people are claiming that will make them pay millions.

Like it or not this Government went back on a major promise and time after time have been shown to be incompetent thats why there getting beaten in the polls. 

[1965]

Carbon tax repeal could cost millions
By Jeremy Thompson
Updated October 18, 2011 12:37:03

A constitutional law expert has warned the Federal Opposition's promise to repeal the carbon price could cost taxpayers millions of dollars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-18/carbon-tax-repeal-could-cost-billions/3576874

I hate how ALP put in clauses in everything they do(prime example desalination plant). Imagine if Liberals done that with work choices. Liberals have stated though there is a way around alot of these clauses people are claiming that will make them pay millions.

Like it or not this Government went back on a major promise and time after time have been shown to be incompetent thats why there getting beaten in the polls.

 

[mightytiges]

Australians are now the wealthiest people on Earth according to Credit Suisse.




AUSTRALIANS are the world's wealthiest people on a median basis and second in the world behind Switzerland on an average basis, according to a new report.

The Credit Suisse report also notes the European sovereign debt crisis is not expected to stop a new generation of millionaires emerging in the next five years, with the greatest wealth growth likely to occur in the booming Asia-Pacific.

On a median measure Australian adults are worth nearly $US221,704 ($217,559), nearly four times the amount of each US adult.

The proportion of Australian adults worth more than $US100,000 is eight times the global average.

The high wealth rate in Australia is attributed to the strong Australian dollar, property ownership levels and a robust labour market.

Australia also has one of the highest home ownership rates in the world, with property making up about 65 per cent of consumers' wealth.

The Credit Suisse Global Wealth report shows worldwide wealth is estimated at $US231 trillion and is forecast to hit $US314 trillion by 2016, despite the current market upheaval.

The report says there are 27.9 million millionaires in the world, of which Australia accounts for 4 per cent.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/were-the-richest-nation-on-earth-according-to-a-credit-suisse-report/story-e6frg926-1226171128694

[1965]

BHP unearths record quarter for iron ore, oil and gas

by: Matt Chambers
From:The Australian
October 20, 201112:00AM

BHP Billiton has delivered record quarterly production and sales from its big West Australian iron ore operations, as it starts working to nearly triple iron ore output.

In the September quarter, the big miner also logged record quarterly oil and gas production after $US20 billion worth of US shale gas acquisitions this year.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/bhp-unearths-record-quarter-for-iron-ore-oil-and-gas/story-fn91v9q3-1226171135631

So much for Tony's claim of the death of the mining industry.

Time to stop believing the crap that comes out of Tony Abbott.

[1965]

Abbott signals shift on China

Katharine Murphy
October 20, 2011

TONY Abbott has signalled that talks for a landmark free trade agreement with China - launched more than five years ago by John Howard - will be put on the backburner if the Coalition wins the next election.
 
The Opposition Leader has indicated that Japan would be a higher priority than China, because Japan is a pluralist democracy and a ''vastly more'' market-based economy than its near neighbour.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/abbott-signals-shift-on-china-20111019-1m86n.html#ixzz1bFtZWzec

Now Tony is going to ignore one of the most important countries in the world.

When will people wake up to this moron.

[mightytiges]

Carbon tax repeal could cost millions
By Jeremy Thompson
Updated October 18, 2011 12:37:03

A constitutional law expert has warned the Federal Opposition's promise to repeal the carbon price could cost taxpayers millions of dollars.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-18/carbon-tax-repeal-could-cost-billions/3576874

I hate how ALP put in clauses in everything they do(prime example desalination plant). Imagine if Liberals done that with work choices. Liberals have stated though there is a way around alot of these clauses people are claiming that will make them pay millions.

Like it or not this Government went back on a major promise and time after time have been shown to be incompetent thats why there getting beaten in the polls.

All Pollies lie all the time especially prior to elections - Never ever GST (1996), Children overboard (2001), Abbott's promise of no rise in the medicare safety net as well as no mention of workchoices (2004), supporting the introduction a carbon ETS (2007) and for 10 years and going into the 2010 election the Libs supported sending asylum seekers to a non-UN refugee signatory (which Nauru was until just recently) as well as wanting to turn around boats to a non-UN refugee signatory (Indonesia) yet now they are suddenly pro-UN just because Gillard now does support offshore processing (Malaysia). No party holds the high moral ground are far as telling the truth. 

Ted Baillieu and Vic Libs in opposition claimed speed camera were just revenue raisers, were against the desal plant, were against Miki  , were against the regional rail link, etc and yet in Government have done a back-flip on all of them and kept them as is. They also promised less spin and yet have had more do-nothing committees into these things than even under the previous Labor Brumby Government. Sheesh we've now got both sides copying each other's press releases word for word in Victoria .

As for Abbott repealing the Carbon Tax - I could be wrong but I thought you couldn't seek a double dissolution until the new Senate is installed. Now the next election will be late 2013 which means the new Senate won't be installed until mid-2014. By the time a carbon tax repealing bill is rejected twice in both houses (minimum 3 months between each vote) it'll be near enough 2015 which is the year the carbon tax will end anyway and we move to an ETS. So are we going to waste millions going to an early election to repeal something that is about to finish anyhow  . That's of course ignoring political pressure from business arcing up about having paid already for carbon permits and the uncertainty Abbott is creating. They have already stated electricity prices will rise thanks to Abbott and he's offering no compensation to anyone. In fact he wants to introduce a brand new $1,300 per year direct action tax on every household.

[WilliamPowell]

All Pollies lie all the time especially prior to elections - Never ever GST (1996), Children overboard (2001), Abbott's promise of no rise in the medicare safety net as well as no mention of workchoices (2004), supporting the introduction a carbon ETS (2007) and for 10 years and going into the 2010 election the Libs supported sending asylum seekers to a non-UN refugee signatory (which Nauru was until just recently) as well as wanting to turn around boats to a non-UN refugee signatory (Indonesia) yet now they are suddenly pro-UN just because Gillard now does support offshore processing (Malaysia). No party holds the high moral ground are far as telling the truth. 

Ted Baillieu and Vic Libs in opposition claimed speed camera were just revenue raisers, were against the desal plant, were against Miki  , were against the regional rail link, etc and yet in Government have done a back-flip on all of them and kept them as is. They also promised less spin and yet have had more do-nothing committees into these things than even under the previous Labor Brumby Government. Sheesh we've now got both sides copying each other's press releases word for word in Victoria .

As for Abbott repealing the Carbon Tax - I could be wrong but I thought you couldn't seek a double dissolution until the new Senate is installed. Now the next election will be late 2013 which means the new Senate won't be installed until mid-2014. By the time a carbon tax repealing bill is rejected twice in both houses (minimum 3 months between each vote) it'll be near enough 2015 which is the year the carbon tax will end anyway and we move to an ETS. So are we going to waste millions going to an early election to repeal something that is about to finish anyhow  . That's of course ignoring political pressure from business arcing up about having paid already for carbon permits and the uncertainty Abbott is creating. They have already stated electricity prices will rise thanks to Abbott and he's offering no compensation to anyone. In fact he wants to introduce a brand new $1,300 per year direct action tax on every household.

I think we need an inquiry to look into all of that 

[tiger101]

All Pollies lie all the time especially prior to elections - Never ever GST (1996)

MT the difference was Howard changed his mind and took it to an election.
The 1998 election was basically a referendum on the GST. How about Gillard take a page out of Howards book and take it to an election now she's changed her mind and wants a carbon tax.

As for Abbott repealing the Carbon Tax - I could be wrong but I thought you couldn't seek a double dissolution until the new Senate is installed. Now the next election will be late 2013 which means the new Senate won't be installed until mid-2014. By the time a carbon tax repealing bill is rejected twice in both houses (minimum 3 months between each vote) it'll be near enough 2015 which is the year the carbon tax will end anyway and we move to an ETS.

I think the liberals are hoping that if they win the election ALP senator's will admit this issue has hurt them and will vote with the liberal government. Like the Liberals did with ALP on repealing work choices after their defeat.

[1965]

I think the liberals are hoping that if they win the election ALP senator's will admit this issue has hurt them and will vote with the liberal government. Like the Liberals did with ALP on repealing work choices after their defeat.

More nonsense.

The vote was 80 to 58 in favour of the bill to repeal workchoices.

http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;page=0;query=work%20choices;rec=0;resCount=Default

The link lists the negative votes if you want to check the names (Mr Abbott is first on the list)

[tiger101]

1965 please explain why Gillard won't take her Carbon tax to an election like Howard did when he changed his mind about the GST? If this is as good as policy as she is saying it will be Im sure people will vote for it like they did on the GST.