Australian Politics thread [merged]

[mightytiges]

Putting Rudd back as PM is all about the fight for seats in Qld and sandbagging ALP seats elsewhere. The Libs/Nats on the other hand want to win seats in NSW & Vic while holding most of their Qld gains from 2010.

blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2013/07/01/when-wholes-are-less-than-sums-of-the-parts/

[1965]

WTF? 

How does Abbott get off this when Slipper is charged by the Feds?


Tony Abbott blames Labor dirt campaign for questions over expenses

By chief political correspondent Emma Griffiths

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has accused Prime Minister Kevin Rudd of organising a dirt campaign against him over an incorrect claim for travel expenses.

Mr Abbott has had to repay more than $9,000 in taxpayer funding, including the use of official "comcars", which was spent on travel to promote his book Battlelines in 2009.

Controversial former Liberal National Party MP Peter Slipper has complained about the case because he is facing legal action over travel expense claims of less than $1,000.

"No credit to justice when cases are treated differently. Abbotts amt was $9400 and he has been let off," Mr Slipper, who now sits as an independent, posted on Twitter yesterday.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-09/tony-abbott-says-labor-dirt-campaign-behind-questions-over-expe/4808492

[Judge Roughneck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvjL-fLK0g

[Chuck17]

WTF

Is Rudd doing, patting a disabled woman on the head like she was a dog is disgraceful.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/prime-minister-kevin-rudd-is-under-fire-after-he-was-filmed-patting-the-head-of-a-disabled-woman-on-730-report/story-fni0cx12-1226677298993

[1965]

More lies from the Libs.


Coalition's $15b carbon price claim 'mostly false'

The Coalition's claim that moving swiftly to a floating carbon price would cost the budget up to $15 billion has been rated "mostly false" by the fact-checking service PolitiFact, which partners with Fairfax Media from today.

During the 40 days leading up to the election, PolitiFact will publish a checked fact a day on The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The National Times websites.

The claim the change would mean "a black hole of up to $15 billion in the budget" was made by shadow treasurer Joe Hockey on the Channel Seven Sunrise program on Friday, June 28, two days after Kevin Rudd retook the Labor Party leadership.

Now at $24.15 a tonne, Australia's carbon price was set to plummet to the European price (currently $6 a tonne) on July 1, 2015.

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Doing it two years earlier "could have a $15 billion impact on the government's revenue over the forward estimates", according to the Coalition's climate change spokesman Greg Hunt, who provided the figures used by Mr Hockey.

"Forward estimates" is budget terminology for the current financial year plus the next three. But this impact would be over two years because the fixed carbon price was set to end in July 2015 in any event.

Mr Hunt's office said it arrived at the $15 billion figure using Table 3.2.7 of the Clean Energy Regulator's budget statement, which showed the government expected to receive $8.34 billion from the carbon tax this financial year and $9.27 billion the next. The cost to the budget from a much lower carbon price of $6.50 would be $6.1 billion this financial year and $6.9 billion the next, by that reasoning. It was not quite the $15 billion claimed by Mr Hockey, but it was close.

But the figures Mr Hunt relied on applied to gross income from the sale of carbon permits. The net income, listed in the same table, was much lower because more than 40 per cent of the permits were given away. The gross income was a notional rather than actual figure, since a huge chunk of it would never be received. And what will not be received cannot be lost.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalitions-15b-carbon-price-claim-mostly-false-20130714-2py81.html#ixzz2Z3g9DY7W

[Chuck17]

Disabled people are humans too Rudd

[Coach]

here doggy.

[1965]

Abbott shown up to be the moron he is.

Take him away from his 3 word slogans and he flounders.


Abbott hit by backlash

Date July 16, 2013
 
Tony Abbott's insistence that Labor's emissions trading scheme is an expensive exercise in buying and selling an ''invisible substance'' has drawn derision from climate experts and industry.

As the Rudd government prepares to detail a path from the carbon tax to an ETS a year earlier than scheduled, the Opposition Leader faces claims he is treading his own path back to the ''politics of climate denial and scepticism''.
 
Imagine Tony Abbott at an international meeting talking to Barack Obama and David Cameron.

Mr Abbott's assertion that an ETS - to be introduced on July 1, 2014, as the government will announce on Tuesday - was a ''so-called market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no one'' sparked an immediate backlash, with critics pointing out that former Liberal prime minister John Howard designed a similar scheme.

Professor Richard Dennis, an economist at the Australian National University, said Mr Abbott should make it clear whether he thinks radiation was harmful or not.

''The notion that something now has to be visible to be valuable or harmful is an entirely new concept in Australian politics and one that will concern and confuse many,'' he said.

''If Tony Abbott is concerned about people paying for invisible things, then anyone who owns intellectual property should be very concerned, likewise people in the futures and financial derivatives market.''

Martijn Wilder, a climate change lawyer at global law firm Baker & McKenzie, said: ''You might not be able to see carbon dioxide but that doesn't mean you shouldn't regulate it.

''An emissions trading scheme is a market for trading permits to pollute. It's no different to trading water licences. An ETS is something that is what the Howard government proposed and what is in existence to differing degrees in Europe, China, California and Korea. [The Coalition scheme] Direct Action is a similar tool.''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-hit-by-backlash-20130715-2q0dw.html#ixzz2Z9OnbFYK

[tiger101]

1965 you don't need to post daily negative articles about Abbott none of us on here will confuse you for a liberal voter.

[Smokey]

1965 you don't need to post daily negative articles about Abbott none of us on here will confuse you for a liberal voter.

And if you want us to read your articles then go hunting for other sources of information than the biased leftist dribble delivered ad nauseum by The Age and the ABC.

[gerkin greg]

i want to see kev doing more disabled people doggy

[Smokey]

I don't.   

[Judge Roughneck]

Rudd is a war hero

 Just like bush

 

[one-eyed]

Kevin Rudd axes carbon tax in favour of Emissions Trading Scheme

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/kevin-rudd-axes-carbon-tax-in-favour-of-emissions-trading-scheme/story-fnho52ip-1226680043190#ixzz2ZE8nJvUS

[Coach]

i want to see kev doing more disabled people doggy

LMFAO