Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Dubstep Dookie]

Tony Abbott is an Australian hero....

[tiga]

Hear, here Mr Speaker....

[mightytiges]

Abbott shown up to be the moron he is.

Take him away from his 3 word slogans and he flounders.


Abbott hit by backlash

Date July 16, 2013
 
Tony Abbott's insistence that Labor's emissions trading scheme is an expensive exercise in buying and selling an ''invisible substance'' has drawn derision from climate experts and industry.

As the Rudd government prepares to detail a path from the carbon tax to an ETS a year earlier than scheduled, the Opposition Leader faces claims he is treading his own path back to the ''politics of climate denial and scepticism''.
 
Imagine Tony Abbott at an international meeting talking to Barack Obama and David Cameron.

Mr Abbott's assertion that an ETS - to be introduced on July 1, 2014, as the government will announce on Tuesday - was a ''so-called market in the non-delivery of an invisible substance to no one'' sparked an immediate backlash, with critics pointing out that former Liberal prime minister John Howard designed a similar scheme.

Professor Richard Dennis, an economist at the Australian National University, said Mr Abbott should make it clear whether he thinks radiation was harmful or not.

''The notion that something now has to be visible to be valuable or harmful is an entirely new concept in Australian politics and one that will concern and confuse many,'' he said.

''If Tony Abbott is concerned about people paying for invisible things, then anyone who owns intellectual property should be very concerned, likewise people in the futures and financial derivatives market.''

Martijn Wilder, a climate change lawyer at global law firm Baker & McKenzie, said: ''You might not be able to see carbon dioxide but that doesn't mean you shouldn't regulate it.

''An emissions trading scheme is a market for trading permits to pollute. It's no different to trading water licences. An ETS is something that is what the Howard government proposed and what is in existence to differing degrees in Europe, China, California and Korea. [The Coalition scheme] Direct Action is a similar tool.''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-hit-by-backlash-20130715-2q0dw.html#ixzz2Z9OnbFYK

Not sure what is worse - Abbott's scientific illiteracy or that he's clearly not aware of the trading of derivatives on the stockmarket  .

[1965]

WOW

[1965]

This is a game changer

Abbott is history

 

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He IS George. W. Bush !

[Chuck17]

Tony Abbott is an Australian hero....

That's nice, obviously a quality person

[tiger101]

1965 do you actually stand for anything or do you only hold anti-Abbott views. You seem to fit the latter to me.

[mightytiges]

This is a game changer

Abbott is history

 

Purely a political decision by Rudd but hopefully it should at least saves us from hearing "stop the boats" every 5 seconds from Abbott  . Then again Abbott is stupid enough to keep rabbiting on with it even though it's been neutralised as an election issue now.

Leadership talk now switches to the Libs given the latest polls. Rudd better get the writs to the GG a.s.a.p. so the Libs can't dump Abbott for Turnbull (which would give the Coalition a certain victory). Abbott remaining Liberal leader is Labor's best (and only) chance. Tipping an August 31 election now.

[tiger101]

This is a game changer

Abbott is history

 

Purely a political decision by Rudd but hopefully it should at least saves us from hearing "stop the boats" every 5 seconds from Abbott  . Then again Abbott is stupid enough to keep rabbiting on with it even though it's been neutralised as an election issue now.

Leadership talk now switches to the Libs given the latest polls. Rudd better get the writs to the GG a.s.a.p. so the Libs can't dump Abbott for Turnbull (which would give the Coalition a certain victory). Abbott remaining Liberal leader is Labor's best (and only) chance. Tipping an August 31 election now.

Turnbull doesn't have any real chance of becoming leader. He performed abysmal against Rudd last time.

[Chuck17]

Libs aren't dumb enough to do the leadership roulette game

[mightytiges]

This is a game changer

Abbott is history

 

Purely a political decision by Rudd but hopefully it should at least saves us from hearing "stop the boats" every 5 seconds from Abbott  . Then again Abbott is stupid enough to keep rabbiting on with it even though it's been neutralised as an election issue now.

Leadership talk now switches to the Libs given the latest polls. Rudd better get the writs to the GG a.s.a.p. so the Libs can't dump Abbott for Turnbull (which would give the Coalition a certain victory). Abbott remaining Liberal leader is Labor's best (and only) chance. Tipping an August 31 election now.

Turnbull doesn't have any real chance of becoming leader. He performed abysmal against Rudd last time.

Recycling is back in fashion in Aussie politics  . Polls do funny things to political parties on both sides .

[Ruanaidh]

I reckon the ALP and Rudd have played the politics of the 'Boat refugee's'  perfectly. Wedge politics at it's best, only this time they wedged the Greens and LP in one fell swoop. I also happen to believe that it is a good all-round policy...... all things considered.

[tiga]

1965 do you actually stand for anything or do you only hold anti-Abbott views. You seem to fit the latter to me.

You'll be waiting a while for an answer on that one T101. 65 is all Egress.

[1965]

1965 do you actually stand for anything or do you only hold anti-Abbott views. You seem to fit the latter to me.

You'll be waiting a while for an answer on that one T101. 65 is all Egress.

Sorry been busy.

I can tell you one thing I stand for...

A solution that will stop people dying at sea.