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« Reply #2280 on: May 17, 2014, 10:24:23 PM »
As alleged "socialists", I would've thought a levy on higher income earners is one measure Labor(sic) would support.

Just one of a long list of lies he said to get into power.

He need to suffer and suffer he will.

Let's see how well he copes with a hostile Senate.

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« Reply #2281 on: May 19, 2014, 07:49:40 AM »

Class warfare.

'Missing' figures show poor are hit
 
May 19, 2014
 
Peter Martin
Economics Editor, The Age

Information withheld from the budget shows high income couples may suffer scarcely at all while low income families on benefits could lose as much as 10 per cent of their incomes.

The information, normally included in the budget, calls into question the Treasurer's claim that "everyone is being asked to make a contribution".

Inserted into the 2005 budget by treasurer Peter Costello and included in every budget since, the table is usually titled "Detailed family outcomes".

It sets out the way in which the budget measures make different types of families better or worse off. In 2005 Mr Costello displayed the results for six family types at 15 different levels of incomes.

In 2009 Labor's Wayne Swan expanded the coverage to display the results as percentage changes in income as well as changes in dollars earned each week.

The table was also produced to justify the changes that ushered in the goods and services tax in 2000 and the carbon tax in 2012.

Joe Hockey's budget is the first without it.

ANU public policy experts Peter Whiteford and Daniel Nethery have crunched the numbers on all the personal tax and benefit changes in Mr Hockey's budget to replicate the missing table.

Their findings, published by Fairfax Media today, show people on benefits suffer far more from the budget than those on high incomes. The worst off is an unemployed 23-year-old whose income will slide to be 18.3 per cent worse off as a result of the budget.

A single parent on the parenting payment with one child aged six will be 10.2 per cent worse off.

In contrast, someone earning three times the average wage will lose just 0.9 per cent of their take-home income.


A high-income childless couple earning $360,000 a year will lose nothing whatsoever.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/missing-figures-show-poor-are-hit-20140518-38i05.html#ixzz326eGHdxE
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« Reply #2282 on: May 19, 2014, 10:26:27 AM »
Who would have thought? screwing the working to middle class, rewarding the fat cats and silvertails.

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« Reply #2283 on: May 19, 2014, 11:30:17 AM »

Would like to know if any of our OER Liberal voters are having second thoughts.

Seems to have gone awfully quiet in here ATM.

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« Reply #2284 on: May 19, 2014, 12:27:59 PM »
Nah you just bore me silly with your crap though

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« Reply #2285 on: May 19, 2014, 12:29:38 PM »
I know most of will go "WGAF" but this article highlights the current thinking by the government.


Lodge renovation hidden from the public as cost blows out to $4.45m   
May 19, 2014 - 3:00AM

Tom McIlroy

Legislative Assembly reporter at The Canberra Times

Internal documents show requests for information from The Canberra Times have been denied on the grounds that it could generate ''negative comments'' about the project.

Staff in Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s office have blocked the release of information on the year-long restoration of The Lodge, fearing "negative comments" about the $4.45 million project.

As contractors continue major works at the prime minister's official residence in Deakin, internal documents show bureaucrats were instructed to give purposefully vague responses to requests for information from The Canberra Times.

Released under Freedom of Information rules, a series of emails show officials in the Finance Department were told not to provide any explanation or identify Mr Abbott's office or the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet as being responsible for the decision.
One senior bureaucrat said Mr Abbott’s staff could be concerned about privacy or a poor reaction to the information being made public.

''Just say the visit has not been approved and you are unaware of the reasons,'' the Finance Department official instructed a colleague via email in March.

''Don’t identify PM&C or the PMO as the decision makers, just leave it vague.''


Works to repair the slate roof, remove asbestos and replace electrical wiring and climate systems began in September.

The Canberra Times first hoped to give readers a look at the restoration in November 2013, but documents show the request set off a flurry of bureaucratic activity over more than five months.

No answer was received until March this year. Journalists and photographers have traditionally had regular access to events and photo opportunities at The Lodge.

Separate emails show Finance Department officials had recommended the media be given access in November and February after the removal of asbestos was complete.

''On balance – noting both pros and cons – we’re of the view that we should permit the visit in the interests of transparency,'' he wrote on February 4.

Another official said it was "better to be open and transparent than secretive" but said journalists should be "kept to the agreed message."

On February 28, an official was told Mr Abbott's office ''does not agree to the proposed visit by a journalist''.

The cost of the renovations and security concerns were not considered in the decision.

Senate documents showed in April that the project had blown out to $4.45 million, up from the original estimate of $3.19 million.


Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/lodge-renovation-hidden-from-the-public-as-cost-blows-out-to-445m-20140514-zrc7x.html#ixzz327lzAny9
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« Reply #2286 on: May 19, 2014, 12:31:52 PM »
Nah you just bore me silly with your crap though

We have a government that is trying to change the nature of our society, a government that is so arrogant that it won't admit that it lied to the public and you're bored by my crap.

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« Reply #2287 on: May 19, 2014, 12:33:52 PM »

I know most of will go "WGAF" but this article highlights the current thing by the government.


That's all right pls keep enlightening us

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« Reply #2288 on: May 19, 2014, 01:02:38 PM »

I know most of will go "WGAF" but this article highlights the current thing by the government.


That's all right pls keep enlightening us

So would you vote for Abbott if the election was called today?

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« Reply #2289 on: May 19, 2014, 01:29:19 PM »
Who would have thought? screwing the working to middle class, rewarding the fat cats and silvertails.

Yes how surprising

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« Reply #2290 on: May 19, 2014, 01:41:48 PM »

I know most of will go "WGAF" but this article highlights the current thing by the government.


That's all right pls keep enlightening us

So would you vote for Abbott if the election was called today?

I would vote for anyone over Labor

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« Reply #2291 on: May 19, 2014, 01:43:46 PM »

Would like to know if any of our OER Liberal voters are having second thoughts.

Seems to have gone awfully quiet in here ATM.

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No second thoughts here at all '65.  Had to be done and was always going to be an unpopular budget.  That's the difference between a government of adults who govern in the best interests of the whole country and one that formulates policy on the back of beer coasters to according to what the minor parties, unions and opinion polls dictate.  And like Chuck, I just couldn't be bothered responding to your articles sourced from the same leftist media all the time.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #2292 on: May 19, 2014, 01:54:47 PM »
Don't support any of the useless pricks but Abbott's currently playing Labor(sic) & the dopey, over-emotional left off a break and they're falling right into his trap.
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« Reply #2293 on: May 19, 2014, 02:19:41 PM »
Don't support any of the useless pricks but Abbott's currently playing Labor(sic) & the dopey, over-emotional left off a break and they're falling right into his trap.

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« Reply #2294 on: May 19, 2014, 07:01:59 PM »
Don't support any of the useless pricks but Abbott's currently playing Labor(sic) & the dopey, over-emotional left off a break and they're falling right into his trap.

Indeed tactical mastermind

In 100 years they will be building shrines to him