Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Francois Jackson]

Pauline is our Trump. Our First Lady is back by popular demand

[Stalin]

Shorten will stay as leader, Turnbull won't.

But who will the Libs turn to?

Morrison, Julie Bishop?

My hope is that the fixer gets the job.

 

Julie wont run for leader, she's the world's greatest Deputy Leader

If you want to know who the next lib leader will be ask Julie who she wants to be deputy to 

In all seriousness this result is no surprise

Just shows folks are sick of being treated like mugs by our so called leaders 

Going to love the Senate, Pauline, Jacqui Lambie, and Derryn. .. wont be dull 

It's the same as in other western countries like the States and England - people are sick of the politicians and the statusquo. Hence the rise of Trump  , the strong popularity of Bernie Sanders, and the surprising result of the Brexit.

Here, one term governments are becoming closer to reality and PMs/leaders are dumped like yearly hard waste collection. The latter of these feeds even more discontent with the public.

I'll call it now, the whole political landscape is almost ripe for the rise of a minor party or a Trump style phenomenon. People will lap it up. All they need is access to campaign funding.

More so, it's seem many if not te majority of bernie supporters. Will not be voting for Clinton.

Many prefer to vote trump.

For mine that shows people are over the left v right. More are wakin up te two party system is a sham

Lemon socialism

[🏅Dooks]

I reckon theres a shift in the states and uk from left vs right in a predominantly economic sense to more of how we should structure our society around rights, speech and social justice.

Political correctness, Nanny State, Censoring of speech, Social Justice (more left)

VS

Freedom of speech, individual rights etc etc (more right),


This has already established itself culturally in our media and permeates into issues beyond the media here and there, but it hasnt become consciously mainstream in politics and the publics mind yet

[Dougeytherichmondfan]

I reckon theres a shift in the states and uk from left vs right in a predominantly economic sense to more of how we should structure our society around rights, speech and social justice.

Political correctness, Nanny State, Censoring of speech, Social Justice (more left)

VS

Freedom of speech, individual rights etc etc (more right),


This has already established itself culturally in our media and permeates into issues beyond the media here and there, but it hasnt become consciously mainstream in politics and the publics mind yet

Dooks all of your more left "values" fall under right wing ideology as much as they do hard left.

And all of your right values (particularly individual rights) are core moderate left values.

I'm a little confused.

[🏅Dooks]

I reckon theres a shift in the states and uk from left vs right in a predominantly economic sense to more of how we should structure our society around rights, speech and social justice.

Political correctness, Nanny State, Censoring of speech, Social Justice (more left)

VS

Freedom of speech, individual rights etc etc (more right),


This has already established itself culturally in our media and permeates into issues beyond the media here and there, but it hasnt become consciously mainstream in politics and the publics mind yet

Dooks all of your more left "values" fall under right wing ideology as much as they do hard left.

And all of your right values (particularly individual rights) are core moderate left values.

I'm a little confused.

 Id argue the right has been more about censorship historically. But thats about it.

Individual rights - not as in equal pay, equality for all etc as in things like right of speech, criticsm of others, freedom of expression, no nanny state laws, gun ownersip in the states etc etc

Believe it or not its more the left these days thats becoming more sensitive about the things you can and cant say

[Tigeritis™©®]

Pauline is our Trump. Our First Lady is back by popular demand

Please explain!

[Tigeritis™©®]

I reckon theres a shift in the states and uk from left vs right in a predominantly economic sense to more of how we should structure our society around rights, speech and social justice.

Political correctness, Nanny State, Censoring of speech, Social Justice (more left)

VS

Freedom of speech, individual rights etc etc (more right),


This has already established itself culturally in our media and permeates into issues beyond the media here and there, but it hasnt become consciously mainstream in politics and the publics mind yet

Dooks all of your more left "values" fall under right wing ideology as much as they do hard left.

And all of your right values (particularly individual rights) are core moderate left values.

I'm a little confused.

 Id argue the right has been more about censorship historically. But thats about it.

Individual rights - not as in equal pay, equality for all etc as in things like right of speech, criticsm of others, freedom of expression, no nanny state laws, gun ownersip in the states etc etc

Believe it or not its more the left these days thats becoming more sensitive about the things you can and cant say

I agree with this but I'm confused too Dooks, are you complaining about it because you don't like it?

If so, why would you vote that way?

Voted ALP for house of reps and greens for the senate.

[Penelope]

lol at Pauline pants down being the political saviour.

The clear message is that people are slowly but surely getting fed up with the endless crap from the two main politacl parties.

How will they respond?

Listen and learn?

I doubt it, they will be more likely to band together and devise ways to protect their hold on power from smaller parties and independents.

God forbid we head down the path of consensus government where those in power have to come up with legislation that is agreed with by a majority of elected reps rather than just a bunch of arse lickers toeing the party line.

Consensus gevernment is the way to go, but sadly political parties are too entrenched and will not relinquish their power.

Maybe we need a revolution.

[Stalin]

http://bawerk.net/2016/06/18/you-are-currently-living-through-the-dumbest-monetary-experimental-end-game-in-history-including-havenstein-and-gonos/



 "Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_socialism

[🏅Dooks]

I reckon theres a shift in the states and uk from left vs right in a predominantly economic sense to more of how we should structure our society around rights, speech and social justice.

Political correctness, Nanny State, Censoring of speech, Social Justice (more left)

VS

Freedom of speech, individual rights etc etc (more right),


This has already established itself culturally in our media and permeates into issues beyond the media here and there, but it hasnt become consciously mainstream in politics and the publics mind yet

Dooks all of your more left "values" fall under right wing ideology as much as they do hard left.

And all of your right values (particularly individual rights) are core moderate left values.

I'm a little confused.

 Id argue the right has been more about censorship historically. But thats about it.

Individual rights - not as in equal pay, equality for all etc as in things like right of speech, criticsm of others, freedom of expression, no nanny state laws, gun ownersip in the states etc etc

Believe it or not its more the left these days thats becoming more sensitive about the things you can and cant say

I agree with this but I'm confused too Dooks, are you complaining about it because you don't like it?

If so, why would you vote that way?

Voted ALP for house of reps and greens for the senate.

More of an observation which i find interesting. I think at the moment this hasnt quite substantially translated into politics and broader society. Moreso the media. But if we go the way of the states and the UK i think it will.

I voted ALP because given half a chance i think that the Libs would have a proper crack at penalty rates, gst and possibly medicare. That was most important to me at the moment.

[Chuck17]

Where's all the Abbot lovers 

[Francois Jackson]

Another meaningful post.

FFS this bloke was  moved on a year ago and so should you Andrew Bolt

[Tigeritis™©®]

I'm not surprised there's absolutely no discussion on here how labour blatantly lied to everyone during the election and no one on here batting an eye.

All the labour supporters on here just let this crap go straight through the to the keeper.

ive got to say I'm not surprised by this silence.   

[Penelope]

I'm not sure there is any Labor "supporters" here. I think most have woken up that both major parties are a blight. Even young Dan seems to have opened his eyes.

I take you are still one those who blindly follow one party, seeing only bad in the other and good in the one u support?

[🏅Dooks]

I'm not surprised there's absolutely no discussion on here how labour blatantly lied to everyone during the election and no one on here batting an eye.

All the labour supporters on here just let this crap go straight through the to the keeper.

ive got to say I'm not surprised by this silence.   

WTF?