Australian Politics thread [merged]

[dwaino]

[Diocletian]

[dwaino]

Holy poo that is the best.

[Ruanaidh]

Clean sweep for the GOP.....what a day. Only it isn't the GOP of this time yesterday - this is something different again. Viva the Republic! Now clean out the rats.

[Harry]

The American Dream. 

[WilliamPowell]

So are you potting all American voters?

I kind of cant blame the Trump voters. This is the biggest middle finger to the establishment of all time.

I actually pot those who don't bother voting whether it because of complacency or apathy and the proceed to complain about the result

Interesting stat I read last night

240+ Million people eligible to vote in the USA, less than 50% actually bothered to vote

Have always wondered how different results over time would have been if it compulsory to vote in the USA

[1965]

I wouldn't be too concerned about Trump.

The GOP will need to be convinced of Trump's policies.

Holding control of both houses and the Presidency could make governing a lot easier.

And if Trump gets too far out of line his own party will impeach him, if not the CIA will take care of him.

 

[Harry]

Think people found his honesty refreshing.   Fed up with political spin.

[tony_montana]

I think the commentators still dont get it - I dont think this was specifically a Trump over Clinton lesser of 2 evils vote - imho this was a big F U to the establishment - ie career politicians, the puppeteers pulling the strings influencing media, policy, agenda etc. The people saw Trump warts and all, as someone who doesnt conform to that and voted accordingly.

Brexit was similar, every commentator and media outlet was telling voters how they should think, that if they voted to leave the EU they were, rascist, sexist, islamaphobs, uneducated or all of the above. I think people are tired of it.

 "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is an old saying that I feel is in the background of the overall mood of the above 2 votes

[Ivan]

Yes dookster, Voting in the multi billionaire is very anti establishment ...

So are you potting all American voters?

I kind of cant blame the Trump voters. This is the biggest middle finger to the establishment of all time.

I actually pot those who don't bother voting whether it because of complacency or apathy and the proceed to complain about the result

Interesting stat I read last night

240+ Million people eligible to vote in the USA, less than 50% actually bothered to vote

Have always wondered how different results over time would have been if it compulsory to vote in the USA

Respectfully I can't agree with this. Churchill spoke a lot of crap but one of the more bang on comments he made was: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter "

Isn't it bad enough, people were voting Hillary due to  'the boss', some d grade rapper and other various average musicians hold rally's for her an tell them to? Do you really want another 100 million mindless zombies voting? Sure, hillary might have won if like australia voting were mandatory - but that doesn't equate to it being 'good'.

The two party system is a joke. The lesser of two evils comment as mindset is correct. How can you pot people when the realistic only other option is warmongering, wall st puppet clinton?

All hail Gaius Julius trump

[Ivan]

I wouldn't be too concerned about Trump.

The GOP will need to be convinced of Trump's policies.

Holding control of both houses and the Presidency could make governing a lot easier.

And if Trump gets too far out of line his own party will impeach him, if not the CIA will take care of him.

 

That's not funny.

 I agree that he will get shot if he doesn't play ball. 

[dwaino]

I think the commentators still dont get it - I dont think this was specifically a Trump over Clinton lesser of 2 evils vote - imho this was a big F U to the establishment - ie career politicians, the puppeteers pulling the strings influencing media, policy, agenda etc. The people saw Trump warts and all, as someone who doesnt conform to that and voted accordingly.

Brexit was similar, every commentator and media outlet was telling voters how they should think, that if they voted to leave the EU they were, rascist, sexist, islamaphobs, uneducated or all of the above. I think people are tired of it.

 "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is an old saying that I feel is in the background of the overall mood of the above 2 votes

Pretty much this. The fact that the media were so shocked and stunned as it happened was just proof that people are waking up and aren't going to just believe whatever narrative they are fed by the media any more. Trump has done something remarkable of first taking down the Republican boys club and now he has smashed the establishment. Brexit, Trump, I'll put Pauline Hanson in too, the right has its tail up and Merkel and Hollande are next. The people are sick of politicians, the establishment, their emotional agendas and cultural Marxist rubbish, the west is getting a hard reset and nobody cares anymore if it means breaking a few eggs. Killary Shillary is as crooked as they come and on top of that had us on a likely warpath with Russia over Syria. Loving seeing how already Australian politicians, Republicans, and anyone else who were against him are now kneeling and kissing his ring as if he were Caesar.

All hail God-Emperor Trump.

[Ivan]

Geez Geez Pauline? Would rather barnarby cause he has some idea I think

The "cultural economic Marxism is dead angle" is quite odd. It's not as if option b was Lenin or Mao - she is right wing as they come

Not only did Obama and Hillary have us fighting russia and Assad in Syria , but we are allies with isis* in this war. Now, have a kit-kat and think about that for a bit...

* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Syria–Iran–Iraq_coalition

* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

[dwaino]

As in the support she and her party received when the media gave her no chance. It's a tide sweeping through the west.

You can't lump cultural and economic Marxism together though as they are exclusive of each other. Hillary and the entire party are definitely cultural Marxists. This is the angle that the majority are peeed off at whether they know what it is called or not. So many rusted on democrats are now claiming that the decrepit old socialist Bernie would have saved them so you can just call them Marxists anyway if you want.

Most people are unaware of the complicated proxies in the Syrian civil war right now that you allude to so whether they like it not Trump is their saviour.

[Ruanaidh]

I applaud those who tipped this racist, sexist piece of scum as the winner.

As that looks like what's going to happen

Is it good for Australia? Nope

Does it further prove the lack pf quality leaders in politics? Yep

Does show how gulible and stupid people are when they get fed fear mongering propaganda that clealry want to hear, without actually been given any solid policies? Yep again

What does it say about the American people? Lots but i won't go there

So are you potting all American voters?

I kind of cant blame the Trump voters. This is the biggest middle finger to the establishment of all time.

Hillary was the cog which the media, wall street, the banks, oil companies, pharmaceuticals, shady overseas contributors etc etc all turned. They are all behind her.

Ironically the demographic that believe they have got left behind over the last 30 years - the middle and working class americans over 40 years of age finally have had enough of subsidising the upper 1% and what their polititians have delivered since Reagan.

That being said, what he also represents threatens to make the world a worse place than what it has been and would be under Clinton. And hes a lier like Clinton.

America will be very divided and that aint good.

I reckon Sanders could have possibly beaten Trump. Sanders would have delivered change but not risked the world economy, and got alot of those who wanted change from the establishment on board.

Another question now is, is this the end of political correctness and the SJW and the beginning of a new era of freedom to offend?



Interested in everyones thoughts.

What people fail to understand is that this is a response to the 'fifth column' change agents who for 50 years have undermined what was a seminal moment of time for western working and middle classes. We have the template but it doesn't include the welfare plantation, globalism, crony capitalism and cultural Marxism. Bernie Sanders as a change agent are you kidding! He would have brought about civil war. Alinsky adherents should thank their lucky stars that Trump won yesterday as their time was at hand one way or another. Trump is the kindest option.