Australian Politics thread [merged]

[Chuck17]

Didn't think there were any points to what was posted on this thread.

WAT made more sense sometimes than the posts in here

[1965]

Didn't think there were any points to what was posted on this thread.

WAT made more sense sometimes than the posts in here

Does this mean you have given up defending Scotty from Marketing?


Where's Dio when you need him?

[Francois Jackson]

another prudent decision from the team.

tt did you even read the scheme?? Perhaps you would have preferred the pink batts

once again Scomo and his team have nailed this to to a tee.

To qualify, people need to be intending to build a new home as a principal place of residence valued up to $750,000 including the land, or planning to renovate an existing property, with the upgrade valued at between $150,000 and $750,000.

if you cant afford a house and land package for $450,000, heck even $350,000 in rural areas, then you haven't managed your money properly.

first home buyers could grab $35,000 benefit, as well as only needing 5% deposit for a few more months yet. 

for those who have a house worth more, they can do a big reno and get $25,000. Only those with a house worth more than 1.5 get nothing.

this guy is going from strength to strength before our very eyes.

[1965]

another prudent decision from the team.

tt did you even read the scheme?? Perhaps you would have preferred the pink batts

once again Scomo and his team have nailed this to to a tee.

To qualify, people need to be intending to build a new home as a principal place of residence valued up to $750,000 including the land, or planning to renovate an existing property, with the upgrade valued at between $150,000 and $750,000.

if you cant afford a house and land package for $450,000, heck even $350,000 in rural areas, then you haven't managed your money properly.

first home buyers could grab $35,000 benefit, as well as only needing 5% deposit for a few more months yet. 

for those who have a house worth more, they can do a big reno and get $25,000. Only those with a house worth more than 1.5 get nothing.

this guy is going from strength to strength before our very eyes.

Do you really believe all that?

[Rampsation]

Another great policy and initiative from the prime minister and his team. Scotty from marketing is going to walk in the next federal election.

[Francois Jackson]

another prudent decision from the team.

tt did you even read the scheme?? Perhaps you would have preferred the pink batts

once again Scomo and his team have nailed this to to a tee.

To qualify, people need to be intending to build a new home as a principal place of residence valued up to $750,000 including the land, or planning to renovate an existing property, with the upgrade valued at between $150,000 and $750,000.

if you cant afford a house and land package for $450,000, heck even $350,000 in rural areas, then you haven't managed your money properly.

first home buyers could grab $35,000 benefit, as well as only needing 5% deposit for a few more months yet. 

for those who have a house worth more, they can do a big reno and get $25,000. Only those with a house worth more than 1.5 get nothing.

this guy is going from strength to strength before our very eyes.

Do you really believe all that?

every word. Unlike you i actually read the scheme before commenting on it.

You said and i quote It is if you are wealthy enough to afford a $150,000 extension or a $750,000 new house.

i not only corrected you, that its any house under 750k, but i commented what most australians are thinking right about our PM, in that he is nailing every post a winner at present. Feel free to continue though its a free country.

we live in a lucky country thats for sure, lucky that the alp and billy shorten aren't in charge.

[1965]

This article says it all. Try to read it with the blinkers off.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/homebuyers-grant-scott-morrisons-homebuilder-scheme-panned/news-story/398dd7f3b6a61a6ded7837812d5c248d

[1965]

And this from a builder.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/no-need-for-homes-package-to-keep-dream-alive-says-inundated-builder-20200604-p54zlt.html

[1965]

And this from an industry expert.


https://www.domain.com.au/news/experts-decry-grotesque-688m-construction-stimulus-as-renters-snubbed-again-960610/?utm_campaign=strap-masthead&utm_source=the-age&utm_medium=link&utm_content=pos5&ref=pos1

[1965]

Loved this quote. How anybody could believe otherwise beggars belief.


Anyone able to start this kind of large-scale renovation by the end of the year either already has their finance lined up and hasn’t suffered an income cut during this crisis that would make them reconsider, or has the cash to do it without borrowing.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/04/the-homebuilder-scheme-is-simply-pork-barrelling-to-the-coalitions-electoral-base#maincontent

[Francois Jackson]

So I rebuff your claim and now you go searching for some sad stories. Guess what in life you have winners and losers . I's not a free ride like the job seeker dole bludgers are getting.

Could you imagine if the stimulus was offered to tradies doing odd jobs around a house. It would be pink batts all over again. Many would rort the system. This way it goes into the right hands. To the actual building sector not the handyman sector.

Nailed it the LNP

[1965]

A couple of points.


This package won't provide much if any extra work for the building sector because it will be taken up by people who were planning to build or renovate anyway.


The greater need in the housing sector is for social housing but there are no votes there for Scotty from Marketing. The package is a blatant give away to the well off who are the only people that can afford to spend $150,000 on a renovation. or $750,000 on a new house. People on JobSeeker or JobKeeper will not be looking to spend that sort of money.


This is an attempt to shore up the Liberals voter base. You only have to look at where the announcement was made. It was in Eden-Monaro where there just happens to be a byelection coming up.

[Rampsation]

Australia will suffer a big drop in GDP in the next quarter but come out of a technical recession straight after as businesses reopen. Theres no need for dodgy  pink batt schemes and cash for clunker schemes. Scotty from Marketing is doing brilliantly. He'll romp in the next election and kill Labors dream for another decade. Scottys popularity ratings going through the roof and rightly so. Pensioners are getting another $750 next month. This ones over. Its all over red rover. Scotty from marketing will win in a landslide.

[1965]

A bit of pure deflection there. You should be in politics.
At least you have given up trying to defend yet another flawed policy.

[Francois Jackson]

A couple of points.


This package won't provide much if any extra work for the building sector because it will be taken up by people who were planning to build or renovate anyway.


The greater need in the housing sector is for social housing but there are no votes there for Scotty from Marketing. The package is a blatant give away to the well off who are the only people that can afford to spend $150,000 on a renovation. or $750,000 on a new house. People on JobSeeker or JobKeeper will not be looking to spend that sort of money.


This is an attempt to shore up the Liberals voter base. You only have to look at where the announcement was made. It was in Eden-Monaro where there just happens to be a byelection coming up.

The greater need in the housing sector is for social housing but there are no votes there for Scotty from Marketing. The package is a blatant give away to the well off who are the only people that can afford to spend $150,000 on a renovation. or $750,000 on a new house. People on JobSeeker or JobKeeper will not be looking to spend that sort of money.

Again with the $750,000. 

It is up to $750,000. e.g couple wants to buy a house and land package in Tarneit for $400,000, they will get $25,000. Couple wants a new home in Lara they will receive $25,000, Couple wants to build a house and land in Mulgrave for $699,000, they will receive $25,000. A guy called TT from OER want to build their dream home in Toorak with his mate 65 for $751,000, he will NOT receive $25,000. If you happen to be a first home buyer you will get more than this.

his package won't provide much if any extra work for the building sector because it will be taken up by people who were planning to build or renovate anyway.

wrong again. Many people were sitting on the sidelines and now with with the aid of a $25,000 kicker they will engage and build.

How about the pensioners who will upgrade their home with wheelchair access, new kitchen, so it helps them avoid selling, paying stamp duty and moving some place else.

I'm starting to think politics isnt your forte. With respect you need to smarten up or just sit down please until covid is over.

Scotty has nailed this one to a tee. The change to foreign investment laws yesterday was another stroke of genius.