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« Reply #5160 on: June 18, 2020, 11:34:27 AM »
"considering" and "existing". Perhaps you need to look those 2 words up.

Fake news


More deflection.

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« Reply #5161 on: June 18, 2020, 11:49:52 AM »



The Labor party has acted decisively to begin the clean up of the Victorian branch of the party.


I wonder whether the Liberal party will do the same with the Queensland LNP.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/lnp-president-dave-hutchinson-peter-dutton/12368470

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« Reply #5162 on: June 18, 2020, 01:47:39 PM »
"One of the questions I get when I travel round Australia is 'how come no one from the banks has gone to jail?'", he told reporters in Melbourne on Tuesday.

"When you see this all theft, when you see the systemic looting of Australian consumers.

"If you steal from a bank, you go to jail, but if a bank steals from you, they get a promotion and a bonus and a big car."

https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5678963/why-have-bank-execs-avoided-jail-shorten/

This hasnt aged well for the great man Billy Shorten.

Where was the outcry here and the "they all do it" I wonder if the same applies here, which it should, for his great party mates or doesn't it count? :shh

Take it you haven't heard Shortens comments from this morning then?

was that the other day WP when he said he didnt want to tarnish everyone with the same brush, yet said he felt sorry for Dan Andrews.  :lol The guy has nothing to say that would interest me as he is a complete hypocrite.I haven't heard anything like the language he used for all the so called scum in the banking sector. Is it not the same thing, or is it different when your mates are caught red handed doing the forging, abuse, stealing and corruption.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/bankers-should-see-charges-jail-shorten



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« Reply #5163 on: June 18, 2020, 02:21:03 PM »

After all the crap spoken on this forum about the Victorian government and China's Belt and Road program.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-could-partner-with-china-on-belt-and-road-initiative-projects-20200617-p553j9.html


"Trade Minister Simon Birmingham has left the door open to Australia partnering with China on infrastructure projects in other countries under an agreement it signed with Beijing covering the controversial Belt and Road Initiative."

hahaha now he changes what he originally posts. I don't know you personally but gee wiz you sound like a complete flog.

Lucky for you i have a sound memory unlike you Biden, and if i recall you said "Liberals just signed an agreement under the China belt deal"  :shh

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« Reply #5164 on: June 18, 2020, 03:52:21 PM »

After all the crap spoken on this forum about the Victorian government and China's Belt and Road program.


https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/australia-could-partner-with-china-on-belt-and-road-initiative-projects-20200617-p553j9.html


"Trade Minister Simon Birmingham has left the door open to Australia partnering with China on infrastructure projects in other countries under an agreement it signed with Beijing covering the controversial Belt and Road Initiative."

hahaha now he changes what he originally posts. I don't know you personally but gee wiz you sound like a complete flog.

Lucky for you i have a sound memory unlike you Biden, and if i recall you said "Liberals just signed an agreement under the China belt deal"


Sorry in future i will acknowledge your corrections.


But it doesn't change the fact that the Federal government is on much the same track as the Victorian government.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5165 on: June 19, 2020, 10:06:42 AM »
much better response TT

time will tell if you are right. Fair chance after this attack, there wont and shouldnt be many deals done by both levels of parliament if they are involved.

No power should be given to China, regardless of there involvement. They are a disgrace
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« Reply #5166 on: June 19, 2020, 10:42:08 AM »
much better response TT

This comment puts you as either a teacher or a priest. Am I right?

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« Reply #5167 on: June 19, 2020, 01:16:47 PM »

Not sure what I think of this change to the cost of university courses.


Although the attack on Humanities shouldn't surprise coming from a PM who knows stuff all about History. (No slavery in Australia - Scott Morrison)




https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/cost-of-priority-degrees-to-be-slashed-some-fees-to-soar-in-funding-overhaul-20200618-p553t5.html


Fees for university courses in health, teaching and science will be cut while the cost of popular humanities, law and commerce degrees will soar under sweeping changes to higher education funding aimed at producing graduates for high-priority employment areas.

The cost of humanities and communications courses will more than double, with a year of full-time study costing $14,500, up from $6684 this year.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5168 on: June 19, 2020, 02:55:55 PM »
Humanities & social studies should be cut altogether...useless Marxist crap for useless people...mainly rich white kids who do them anyway so it's not like they can't afford it... :shh
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« Reply #5169 on: June 19, 2020, 03:08:45 PM »
much better response TT

This comment puts you as either a teacher or a priest. Am I right?

HAHAHAHA Well i have been a teacher recently as all dads have, and i dont like priests since they used to hit me on the hand at high school. They disliked me which in hindsight was a great thing. :shh

Bit of dry humour from TT, now your sounding a bit like 65.

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« Reply #5171 on: June 19, 2020, 05:16:33 PM »


https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/labor-scandal-spreads-to-nsw-20200619-p554a4

Labor scandal spreads as NSW MP quits
Patrick Durkin, David Marin-Guzman and Tom McIlroy
Jun 19, 2020 – 4.17pm

More Labor scalps are set to fall after Victoria's industrial branch-stacking scandal spread to NSW, with Labor MP Julia Finn quitting the NSW shadow cabinet on Friday.

Federal Labor deputy leader Richard Marles called it a "horror week" for Labor but rallied behind under-siege fellow MP Anthony Byrne despite speculation the party could still cut Mr Byrne loose after the Eden-Monaro byelection.

The fallout from the scandal continues to widen as Victorian Labor Premier Daniel Andrews opened talks with trade unions to attempt to quash a revolt over the federal takeover of Victorian Labor.


NSW Labor leader Jodi McKay with Granville MP Julia Finn, who has quit shadow cabinet after being named in a branch stacking investigation. She resigned on Friday but maintained her innocence.  AAP

In NSW, Ms Finn maintained her innocence but said she had informed Labor leader Jodi McKay she would stand aside as Labor's spokeswoman for carers and consumer protection, after being named in an internal investigation into branch stacking in western Sydney.

"I maintain my innocence of any wrongdoing," she said in a brief statement.


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The NSW investigation, led by former Queensland state secretary Evan Moorhead, found Ms Finn had breached party rules, but no adverse findings were made against her.

Ms McKay said seven people had been found charged with "unworthy conduct" and would face a NSW Labor Party tribunal.

The branch-stacking scandal exposed by The Age and 60 Minutes has already claimed the scalps of three Victorian government ministers, including dumped Labor minister and right-wing powerbroker Adem Somyurek,

It also triggered the federal takeover of Victoria Labor which unions are branding an "unprecedented power grab".

The Australian Financial Review can reveal that Mr Andrews is in talks with the powerful bloc of trade unions to ensure they are given a "seat at the table" for Labor's national conference to influence both the party's policy and power.


Premier of Victoria Daniel Andrews speaks to the media this week as the Labor crisis escalates. Darrian Trainor

The bloc – which includes union forces from both the left and right of the Labor union factions including the CFMEU, Health Workers Union, retail union, plumbers' union and Transport Workers Union – are threatening legal action in response to the federal takeover.

The bloc is seeking legal advice from Maurice Blackburn – the union law firm which has previously acted for expelled Labor member John Setka – although would be unlikely to act given Maurice Blackburn chairman Steve Bracks has been appointed the administrator for the takeover.

"We are law-abiding unions who don't branch stack and pay our fees, so a lot of people are peeed off about this unprecedented power grab," one union official from Labor's Industrial Left said.

Transport Minister Jacinta Allan told reporters on Friday: "That's a matter for them, that's a matter for those parties who are considering this."

Labor is also facing the threat of legal action from Mr Somyurek, who is vowing he is serious.

"I am very serious about taking the legal action in relation to the unlawful recordings," he texted the Financial Review.

Ms Allan said: "That's a matter for that individual who is no longer a member of the Labor Party. The actions of that individual speak for themselves."


Deputy Labor leader Richard Marles (here next to leader Anthony Albanese) is standing by Anthony Byrne. AAP

A deluge of leaked text messages from Mr Byrne about Labor heavyweights have been leaked to the media in the wake of the fallout, including former NSW senator Sam Dastyari, who was called a "crooked, corrupt f---".

"Albo has spoken with Anthony about that language. I'm not about to defend it," Mr Marles said. "I absolutely think that Anthony Byrne has a very important role to continue to play in politics."

Even Australia's Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton threw his support behind Mr Byrne, who is considered a China hawk.

"I certainly like him and I think he's done a great job in the Intelligence Committee," he said.

Senior Labor sources played down speculation that forces were mobilising in Labor's Socialist Left faction to dump federal Victorian senator Kim Carr, who was elected in 1993 from Victoria and may be under threat in the Labor power shake-up.
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5172 on: June 19, 2020, 06:01:57 PM »
I have read that a couple of times. Still makes no sense.

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« Reply #5173 on: June 19, 2020, 07:05:41 PM »
Told ya its the tip of the branch stack iceberg. More to come i reckon.

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« Reply #5174 on: June 20, 2020, 12:21:35 PM »
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fnews%2Fvictoria%2Fscandals-that-have-rocked-the-andrews-government%2Fnews-story%2Ff7a5790b488f0f3665296dfa20c17769&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

"SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL, THE PUBLIC DESERVES A ROYAL COMMISSION"

billy boy got that right. Now its his mates turn to face the music of corruption.

(Im sure one of the mods have access to this pathetic paper so be interesting to read Dans rap sheet)

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