Australian Politics thread [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

Although the pay rise is set by an independent panel our fearless polling don't have agree to it

I noticed the OL Mr Persuto rambled on about it not being right when so many Victorians are doing it so tough but he never said he handed it back or direct his party or the coalition to not accepted it.

Ditto Andrews he stood at his presser and rambled on about it being an independent decision but he never said he'd turn it down.

Fair dinkum they are all (Labor, Libs, Greens, Nats) are clueless when it comes to reading the room

None of them deserve an increase in particular the Premier, especially after playing politics around the Denyer situation. Disgraceful by Andrews 

[Andyy]

Dictator Dan gets a well deserved pay rise.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/victorian-politicians-mps-to-receive-pay-rise-tribunal-finds/102502684

I’ve often thought you were a goose
Nice to have it proven

Typical of the Victorian government to be unable to read the room

Decision by VIRT though, independent tribunal.

Supposedly nothing to do with the governing party, in fact Andrews' created VIRT to prevent pollies setting their own wages.

ooh dear

why dont they hand in their defined benefit schemes then? You know the ones that are worth over 3 million though nice of them to come up with that figure 

or perhaps give back the pay rise, in fact why dont any of them?

Andy dont kid yourself he is as corrupt as it comes, and has many friends, though he is the worst.

It's not an example of corruption, just greed. Would you turn down a pay rise?

Would I?

Nope.

[mightytiges]

It's like the old Yes Prime Minister episode. The "independent parliamentaty body" links politician salaries to the salaries of the top civil/public servants which is measured against the salaries of
corporate CEOs/CFOs. As long as one is going up, they ALL go up, and irrespective of which side of politics they are from or is in power. So no one within the system complains. One big happy gravy train.

[1965]

Scotty from Marketing has reared his head once again. Is he trying to rewrite history or is he telling the truth.
Either way it looks like he is readying the way to another shot at the Liberal leadership.


https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/not-the-same-as-lying-to-him-morrison-defends-keeping-aukus-secret-from-macron-20230622-p5digz.html

But Morrison defended his plans, telling Kerbaj: “Not telling him is not the same as lying to him. I think Emmanuel thought I was … seeking leverage on the contract. Maybe he thought I was bluffing.”

[Broadsword]

It's like the old Yes Prime Minister episode. The "independent parliamentaty body" links politician salaries to the salaries of the top civil/public servants which is measured against the salaries of
corporate CEOs/CFOs. As long as one is going up, they ALL go up, and irrespective of which side of politics they are from or is in power. So no one within the system complains. One big happy gravy train.

Such a great show. Comparable jobs in industry ... the directors of BP and IBM! 

[mightytiges]

It's like the old Yes Prime Minister episode. The "independent parliamentaty body" links politician salaries to the salaries of the top civil/public servants which is measured against the salaries of
corporate CEOs/CFOs. As long as one is going up, they ALL go up, and irrespective of which side of politics they are from or is in power. So no one within the system complains. One big happy gravy train.

Such a great show. Comparable jobs in industry ... the directors of BP and IBM! 

Here's that clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXMim-St-BI

Pay rise tricks and linking pollie salaries to those of civil servants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGXwpO6Ou-4

[Francois Jackson]

Dictator Dan gets a well deserved pay rise.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/victorian-politicians-mps-to-receive-pay-rise-tribunal-finds/102502684

I’ve often thought you were a goose
Nice to have it proven

Typical of the Victorian government to be unable to read the room

Decision by VIRT though, independent tribunal.

Supposedly nothing to do with the governing party, in fact Andrews' created VIRT to prevent pollies setting their own wages.

ooh dear

why dont they hand in their defined benefit schemes then? You know the ones that are worth over 3 million though nice of them to come up with that figure 

or perhaps give back the pay rise, in fact why dont any of them?

Andy dont kid yourself he is as corrupt as it comes, and has many friends, though he is the worst.

It's not an example of corruption, just greed. Would you turn down a pay rise?

Would I?

Nope.

of course but you are not running the country and of course in your industry as long as he is in power i would lick his arse too

educational servants as well. Bunch of sheep.

plenty of people like the Lefties support the 3 mil cap but then turn a blind eye to the pollies just like your mate andrews not including his own DB in that cap.

Funny that. I include all of them in this rabbit hole, but only a select few control us and he is one of those. 

[Chuck17]

Albys honeymoon is well and truly over, approval rating decreasing and at lowest level since elected and this farce of a referendum.

Labor Could have been in office for a decade + given the shambles the libs are in but now it’s a two horse race

[Francois Jackson]

The voice in the middle of a cost of living crisis  . what were those losers thinking fair dinkum.

sort the country out first then by all means embark on this skata.

[Chuck17]

Dealing with real life current issues instead Thanks

[Damo]

Dealing with real life current issues instead Thanks

 

[Diocletian]

JFC this is absolutely stuffing laughable. #protectedspecies

[one-eyed]

Snip! 

You know the rules guys. Disagreeing/debating is fine but posts that simply bait, call other posters names and/or have nothing to do with topic will be removed.

[1965]

Liberal party are stuffed.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-could-lose-35-seats-as-millennials-gen-z-reshape-politics-20230628-p5dk2y.html

The Coalition could lose the next six elections because Millennials and Generation Z voters aren’t shifting towards conservatives as they get older, prompting five Liberal MPs to urge the party to transform its relationship with younger Australians.

New analysis of voting trends by the Liberal-leaning Centre for Independents Studies has found that by the time people reached their early 50s, Baby Boomers (people born between 1946 and 1964) and Generation X (1965-1980) were more likely to vote for a conservative party than a progressive party.


But that trend is not being repeated among voters who are Millennials (1981-1995) or Generation Z (1996-2009). The percentage of Millennials shifting their vote to the Coalition is only increasing by 0.6 per cent at each election – half the speed at which Boomers and Gen Xers are shifting – which means Millennials will be in their 80s, rather than their 50s, before they are more likely to vote for the Coalition.

And for Generation Z, who were first eligible to vote in a federal election from 2014, support for the Coalition is falling, rather than increasing. This group is the least likely of any post-war generation to support the Coalition.

More Millennials and Gen Zers voted for the Greens than the Coalition at the last election and projecting the current trends forward, the paper warns that by 2040 – when 70 per cent of voters will be from post-1980 generations – the Coalition could lose another 35 seats.

[Diocletian]

They've been saying that since the height of the hippie movement back in the 60's. The pendulum always swings