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[Francois Jackson]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

Agreed and we will make finals next year.

 x2

Its quite funny how people should just accept with a season where players improve. Its crap.

Our team is now good enough to match and beat any team from 6-18. FACT!!

We are not there yet to contend yet but our aim from this season forward is playing finals every year

[WA Tiger]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

 , dead right, anything but finals next year is failure IMO
  poo, we have been rebuilding since 1980 FFS!

For a guy who was dead set on us tanking this season so we can keep rebuilding I find your comments astonishing not to mention completely hypercritical    sound as though you wouldn't know is your behind was on fire

Show me one of my posts where I actually said we should tank, show me where I used the words....we should tank.....mmmmm, don't think you will find one. I wanted to either get in the 8 or finish where we would get better draft picks, take that anyway you want.

I didnt mind if we kept winning so long as the teams above us kept winning too, leaving us under them on the ladder so we recieved the better picks...

Anyway, go back to your cave until next season...

[camboon]

Interesting - reading between the lines " we have a great list of players who are battle hardened but are not trying hard enough or alternatively we are tanking and are really much better than our results show.

I could be delusional in thinking we are are very young side with good potential but we have a lot of hard work and development required before we are to match it with the big boys.

But, back to the subject - I hope Richmond let Mick know that he's a Tiger Man and the door is always open for him to help out in a role that matches his / our needs!

[Loui Tufga]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

 , dead right, anything but finals next year is failure IMO
  poo, we have been rebuilding since 1980 FFS!

For a guy who was dead set on us tanking this season so we can keep rebuilding I find your comments astonishing not to mention completely hypercritical    sound as though you wouldn't know is your behind was on fire

Show me one of my posts where I actually said we should tank, show me where I used the words....we should tank.....mmmmm, don't think you will find one. I wanted to either get in the 8 or finish where we would get better draft picks, take that anyway you want.

I didnt mind if we kept winning so long as the teams above us kept winning too, leaving us under them on the ladder so we recieved the better picks...

Anyway, go back to your cave until next season...

lol.....I just like stirring you up because you normally bite back hard You were a bit lame with the comback this time

 

[WA Tiger]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

All well and good to aim for finals every year, but did you really expect us to make it there these last two years?

As for the 3 finals in 5 years or whatever it was, it was a goal set by the club.
There is not much point in setting goals if you don't expect to achieve them.

Ah WAT, you've done it again.

But then again I understand where you are coming from. I've had a go at rebuilding cars in the past and it takes too long, too much like hard work and you need to know what you are doing.

So I decided, no more of this rebuilding crap. Now i just go out and buy what i need.

If only i could find a genie in a bottle.

Al my friend... , how many games this year did we throw away honestly throw away that had we of won we would of played finals. We lost some very important games that we should of won.

So yes I did expect us to play finals, we hung around that bloody top 8 for a long time this year and every chance we had to get in, playing against teams we should have beaten, we blew it.

No more excuses.

[WA Tiger]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

 , dead right, anything but finals next year is failure IMO
  poo, we have been rebuilding since 1980 FFS!

For a guy who was dead set on us tanking this season so we can keep rebuilding I find your comments astonishing not to mention completely hypercritical    sound as though you wouldn't know is your behind was on fire

Show me one of my posts where I actually said we should tank, show me where I used the words....we should tank.....mmmmm, don't think you will find one. I wanted to either get in the 8 or finish where we would get better draft picks, take that anyway you want.

I didnt mind if we kept winning so long as the teams above us kept winning too, leaving us under them on the ladder so we recieved the better picks...

Anyway, go back to your cave until next season...

lol.....I just like stirring you up because you normally bite back hard You were a bit lame with the comback this time

 

 ..all good.

[WilliamPowell]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

Agreed and we will make finals next year.

 x2

Its quite funny how people should just accept with a season where players improve. Its crap.

Our team is now good enough to match and beat any team from 6-18. FACT!!

We are not there yet to contend yet but our aim from this season forward is playing finals every year

And it's also quite funny how people still keep saying we have too many duds & list cloggers

I agree the aim should be finals but in reality I would think if we were to lose 2-4 of our best players then we'd be in strife - big strife

I reckon our top 5-10 are very good the next group 11-15 are good enough but we still have major question marks over the rest

[Penelope]

big, big, strife is we loose 2-4 of our best.

[dwaino]

Dimma said the difference from '10 to '11 was the players went from hoping to believing. I don't see what the big deal is saying we can't take the next step again and in '12 putting away the sides we should beat. That means crap like Port, GC and Melbourne and knocking over sides like the Bummers when we've got them by the throats. It's not asking for a bloody miracle, just some consistency. If we had done this year we'd of been in the finals so only a small step forward and we move to te next echelon. I'm not over rating the list and admit we still have a long way to go but I'm a strong believer that a finals appearance, be it an 8th spot and a flogging from 5th, will be in the absolute best interest of everyone. The players would be hungry for the next season, I would give them belief and incentive that hard work pays off and to keep at it. To experience the intensity and ferociousness of finals football for the first time would be good to get out of the system or them too. Then it would prove to the other clubs and supporters that the Tigers are back and mean business (any let's face it, plenty have a soft spot for us and woulnt mind seeing the Tiges up again as long as it isn't atthe expense of their own club), boost pre- season memberships and hopefully make us more inviting for players and coaches shopping around for a new club.

Not putting a knock on anyone but I come across so many fellow Tigers who are quick to write us off and say "we're rebuilding" as some kind of means to accept failing. We are rebuilding and still need major list work but I don't see how flunking out in '12 but make finals in '13 is any different from this year to next. Bottom feeders to almost making it to just making it seems logical improvement. I'm not quite 30 yet so I've seen significantly less, but my old man who has been a Tiger since the 50s doesn't buy the "we're rebuilding" anymore. The boy who cried wolf sort of deal. But in the first time in as long as I can remember he trusts the coach. Not sure what the deal is but he's infatuated with Dimma or something 

Just my 2 cents anyway. I reckon we all got strong and differing opinions. While the faith never waivers it's certainly hard to follow our lot sometimes.

[Francois Jackson]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

Agreed and we will make finals next year.

 x2

Its quite funny how people should just accept with a season where players improve. Its crap.

Our team is now good enough to match and beat any team from 6-18. FACT!!

We are not there yet to contend yet but our aim from this season forward is playing finals every year

And it's also quite funny how people still keep saying we have too many duds & list cloggers

I agree the aim should be finals but in reality I would think if we were to lose 2-4 of our best players then we'd be in strife - big strife

I reckon our top 5-10 are very good the next group 11-15 are good enough but we still have major question marks over the rest

your damm right we do. Connors, Edwards, Jackson, Gus, to name a few.

However, even with those duds playing we are still capable of beating most teams.

Making the finals in 2012 will be decided between the ears

[Penelope]

Dwaino, when most people use the word rebuilding it is not accepting failure, just being realistic as to what is failure.

The thing is now that dimma himself has said that we are moving out of the mass development phase where young players get games just to get games under their belt, into being more focused on picking players on performance ( I dont see this as being hard line though) and winning games.

He himself has raised the bar, as he out to have, and such we are entitled to raise our expectations.

All the same, I dont expect us to come out and constantly beat the tops sides, but that's not accepting failure, just being realistic.

[TigerTimeII]

we should aim for finals every yr , thats the problen with this club, what is so wrong with trying to make finals each yr anyway

mediocrity is BS

Agreed and we will make finals next year.

 x2

Its quite funny how people should just accept with a season where players improve. Its crap.

Our team is now good enough to match and beat any team from 6-18. FACT!!

We are not there yet to contend yet but our aim from this season forward is playing finals every year

And it's also quite funny how people still keep saying we have too many duds & list cloggers

I agree the aim should be finals but in reality I would think if we were to lose 2-4 of our best players then we'd be in strife - big strife

I reckon our top 5-10 are very good the next group 11-15 are good enough but we still have major question marks over the rest

northey had us firing with list cloggers

[10 FLAGS]

And then you go to a prelim and lose by 15 goals with the plodders. Thats the problem.

[WilliamPowell]

And then you go to a prelim and lose by 15 goals with the plodders. Thats the problem.

Correct

 I reckon the players from our list of 44 minimum of 24 of them would struggle to ge a game elsewhere. There's your problem

your damm right we do. Connors, Edwards, Jackson, Gus, to name a few.

Scary thing is that the "experts" would say both Edwards & Jackson would be in our best 12 that's the problem

However, even with those duds playing we are still capable of beating most teams.

Making the finals in 2012 will be decided between the ears

Making finals wont be decided between the ears daniel, winning games will be... need to win enough of them to play finals

But I tell you we lose one of our top 5 for an extended period then realistically you have to question our chances of competing

BTW Geelong in part proved on the weekend yet again the team with the least amount of injuries come Sept usually wins finals

[Eat_em_Alive]

And then you go to a prelim and lose by 15 goals with the plodders. Thats the problem.

Correct

 I reckon players from our list of 44 a minimum of 24 of them would struggle to ge a game elsewhere. There's your problem

your damm right we do. Connors, Edwards, Jackson, Gus, to name a few.

Scary thing is that the "experts" would say both Edwards & Jackson would be in our best 12 that's the problem

However, even with those duds playing we are still capable of beating most teams.

Making the finals in 2012 will be decided between the ears

Making finals wont be decided between the ears daniel, winning games will be... need to win enough of them to play finals

But I tell you we lose one of our top 5 for an extended period then realistically you have to question our chances of competing

BTW Geelong in part proved on the weekend yet again the team with the least amount of injuries come Sept usually win finals

In essence: Having A good list, good rotation of players each week and a good culture will go a long way.



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