Richmond to train in Arizona with academy Athletes’ Performance [merged]

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Pretty sure that is not relton - he knows to drop his pants before taking a dump

But when does Relton wear pants?

[Owl]

High altitude is only going to do you any good just before the season starts and probably at some stage during the season to get that red blood cell count up.  Doing it early in the preseason is a waste of time, all the benefits will have faded by the time the season starts.  The low oxygen tents can be used to maintain the effect, thats what scumwood do. 

[Dubstep Dookie]

Pretty sure that is not relton - he knows to drop his pants before taking a dump

But when does Relton wear pants?

When he's full enough not to eat them?

[Dubstep Dookie]

High altitude is only going to do you any good just before the season starts and probably at some stage during the season to get that red blood cell count up.  Doing it early in the preseason is a waste of time, all the benefits will have faded by the time the season starts.  The low oxygen tents can be used to maintain the effect, thats what scumwood do.

When I was 17 I found myself in a low oxygen tent following a huge feed up of jd & tang, and a kilo bag of scrogin...

[Owl]

lol

[Willy]

When I was 17 I found myself in a low oxygen tent following a huge feed up of jd & tang, and a kilo bag of scrogin...

 

[The Big Richo]

Does anyone on here understand this stuff?

Google tells me the highest peak in Arizona is in the 2,700 vicinity, so only 500 metres higher than Mt Koscuiszko.

Is all this just an expensive wank?

[dwaino]

Does anyone on here understand this stuff?

Google tells me the highest peak in Arizona is in the 2,700 vicinity, so only 500 metres higher than Mt Koscuiszko.

Is all this just an expensive wank?

It has been said heaps, but some people are still getting confused or just missing it I think. They're not going over for high altitude training. They're going over to learn an elite high performance training program at a cutting edge facility.

Just tried googling some info and found this one http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-to-train-in-arizona-but-no-altitude/story-e6frf9jf-1226128924334 


and yeah, the altitude training is just expensive wank unless you've got money to throw around (Collingwood) for an altitude training facility at home. It's a pretty simple bio-mechanism. At higher altitudes there are less oxygen molecules per volume of air. So, obviously that means you take in less oxygen than at sea level every breath you take. What happens is this triggers a hormone to start producing more red blood cells to help put oxygen into muscles and stuff. The effect lasts less than a month (2-3 weeks or something) so there is no point unless you can keep it up. This is also why Kenyan long distance runners are so good for example since they live and train at high altitudes. For a while this effect was mimicked by performance enhancing drugs that were not being picked up by the usual sport performance drug tests which mainly checked for anabolic steroids.

Hope that helps

[The Big Richo]

Thanks, Dwaino. 

In that case this all sounds like a huge waste of cash.

Surely we have similar facilities here and if it is a case of learning programs  then surely we could bring the experts to us, rather than paying for an entire footy team to travel there?

[bojangles17]

I was wating for big richos qualified response on this, clearly sports science a genuine strength of his ...if it was up to BR we'd spend a week at Skinner reserve, there's been a few developments in this area post the war my friend

[dwaino]

That was my initial impression too, BR. But at work we have armatures and electric motors every where yet we still head to interstate conferences and seminars to learn fancy things going on. If the club was debt free this is the kind of thing they would probably chuck money at even if just once as a kind of experiment. So the fact that they can still afford it without affecting debt management I think is a positive sign. Most of the clubs are doing it at the moment so it could just be a case of keeping up with the Jones's, and I imagine if clubs like Geelong who are staying home stay a step above everyone else then this little adventure will be nothing more than a trial and won't be attempted again. This could also be a reflection on Australian facilities. Maybe it's time the AIS or something set something up so domestic teams don't need to travel for elite level training (whatever the definition of that is). By the sounds of it there could be quite some coin to be made off it.

In Dimma's conferance yesterday he said the boys have been really proactive with their training over the break so this adventure might be more beneficial due to perfect timing as they're all motivated.

[Willy]

Thanks, Dwaino. 

In that case this all sounds like a huge waste of cash.

Surely we have similar facilities here and if it is a case of learning programs  then surely we could bring the experts to us, rather than paying for an entire footy team to travel there?

eff me, TBR.

[bojangles17]

Thanks, Dwaino. 

In that case this all sounds like a huge waste of cash.

Surely we have similar facilities here and if it is a case of learning programs  then surely we could bring the experts to us, rather than paying for an entire footy team to travel there?

eff me, TBR.

glad you said it wil. all straight from the clacker too

[WilliamPowell]

... we'd spend a week at Skinner reserve,

In its day it was a fine footy surface old Skinner Reserve, gone to poo since Sunshine disappeared from the VFA

Used to love going to watch practice matches at Skinner when I was a kid

Would hop on my bike and peddle from Kingsville .............those were the days   

[bojangles17]

... we'd spend a week at Skinner reserve,

In its dayit was a fine footy surface old Skinner Reserve, gone to poo since Sunshine disappeared from the VFA

Used to love going to watch practice matches at Skinner when I was a kid

Would hop on my bike and peddle from Kingsville .............those wer ethe days 

yep they were wp, but its 2011 now man not 1984