Tigers vs Suns @ Cairns 2012

[one-eyed]

15 basic errors
By Ben Guthrie
3:14 PM Mon 16 Jul, 2012

RICHMOND made "15 basic mistakes" in the final two minutes of their shock loss to Gold Coast at Cazalys Stadium in Cairns on Saturday.

AFL.com.au's Luke Darcy and Damian Barrett have run through the last two minutes of the game and broken down the different skill errors and basic structural mistakes.

With Richmond leading by 10 points with just 40 seconds remaining, the Tigers make a number of alarming passages of play.

"They just messed up opportunities themselves, got too far behind and really, really stuffed up the last two minutes in the way not many good football clubs have ever done," Barrett said.

Those mistakes included crucial fumbles at critical times, missing easy tackles, not having a ruckman at a boundary throw-in, loose checking of opponents and a lack of composure under pressure.

According to Darcy, that sort of performance rules the Tigers out of finals contention.

"They will be absolutely ropeable. To be a really good side, you can't make basic errors."

"They get two of them right, they probably win the game."

Watch video here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/141621/default.aspx

[Mr Magic]

I'd rather urinate razor blades than sit through that again.

[DCrane]

Webberley's first few opportunities were quite difficult and under severe pressure, overheard marking is not his forte that's for sure. He tried to work his way into the game but kept finding himself in halfwayland, halfway between where the ball is, and where it is going. His positioning was bad. This can happen if you haven't played at the level for quite some time. You can actually fix this during a game. Perhaps he wasn't doing something he was told to do, but I thought he deserved a chance to run himself into the game and get some pill. And once again I am not convinced with this coaching decision, subbing in the first half should be for emergencies only. Matt Dea has played worse halves than that and we didn't hit the panic button.

Some of the comments towards JW are a bit over the top, he is clearly a goner now, but is the vicious send off really necessary?

[WilliamPowell]

Webberley's first few opportunities were quite difficult and under severe pressure, overheard marking is not his forte that's for sure. He tried to work his way into the game but kept finding himself in halfwayland, halfway between where the ball is, and where it is going. His positioning was bad. This can happen if you haven't played at the level for quite some time. You can actually fix this during a game. Perhaps he wasn't doing something he was told to do, but I thought he deserved a chance to run himself into the game and get some pill. And once again I am not convinced with this coaching decision, subbing in the first half should be for emergencies only. Matt Dea has played worse halves than that and we didn't hit the panic button.

Some of the comments towards JW are a bit over the top, he is clearly a goner now, but is the vicious send off really necessary?

Your comparison with Dea is an interesting one and probably a valid one. there is one big difference however and that is it appears that Dea is favoured player and that explains to me at least while he gets more opportunities than others, it's a bit like the Dan Jackson situation as well.

As I posted originally I don't like whacking blokes for the sake of it but what I saw on Saturday with a couple of things that were for me "red rag to a bull" type stuff. There was one time in the 1st off the ball he needed to sprint in and help out in a contest because his direct opponent ran to the same contest, he didn't he just jogged along and didn't come anywhere near it (watched the replay doens't show on it sadly) and that resulted in the Suns easily mving the ball forward and scoring.... not a great look no matter who you are 

And if it comes out he was injured and that's why he was subbed then I will be the first person to say I was wrong but right at the moment there is nothing saying or suggesting he was injured

[Judge Roughneck]

Dea is nothing like jackson. Tripe.

[WilliamPowell]

Dea is nothing like jackson. Tripe.

Tripe? Er No

Suggest you re-read my post Bents

Not talking about Dea as a player

I am talking about Dea being a coaches favourite like Jackson.

Everyone man and his dog knows Jacko is a favourite, hence why he keeps getting games despite is unique ability to butcher the ball and poor decision making.

It is pretty clear to me  that Dea is a favourite of the coaches as well

[one-eyed]

Coaches votes (Hardwick & McKenna)

Richmond v Gold Coast
9 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
7 Trent McKenzie (GC)
6 Gary Ablett (GC)
6 Brett Deledio (Rich)
1 Harley Bennell (GC)
1 Brandon Matera (GC)

[eliminator]

Cotchin was outstanding. We are extraordinarily lucky to have him in our team. Lids tried his hardest. Thought Nahas was okay and Jack was okay. Newman did a fantastic spoil. Never ever want to see that game again.

[Gigantor]

Was listening to robert shaw and viny on sunday morning on SEN,and robert shaw was giving it to jackson and white for not being team oriented by getting themseleves suspended.Viny defended jacko somewhat by making an interesting comment,that being, that he has spoken to jacko and that jacko is very aware where he stands.I took that  to mean that jacko knows he has limited ability and that maybe his days wearing the black and yellow will not be long ......................anyone else catch this ?

[the claw]

yeah was Xman who dropped it

positives:

 and Nahas they did their job and did it well. Jack looks sooo much better when hes on the lead, stop this body on body crap. Nahas continually cops crap from supporters that hes not good enough, not sure why, he does his job more often than not in a position which is really hard to be consistent.

disagree nahas was abysmal for 3 quarters and spent significant time on ball. he was lucky to not be subbed out at half time. if not for his purple patch in the third his day  would have been a total right of. where was he in the last when we needed experienced players to lead from the front.

its this dramatic swing in form not only week to week but quarter to quarter that has so many of the older players in the gun. they are either  poo house or they are okay there is no inbetween with them.

[tony_montana]

yeah was Xman who dropped it

positives:

 and Nahas they did their job and did it well. Jack looks sooo much better when hes on the lead, stop this body on body crap. Nahas continually cops crap from supporters that hes not good enough, not sure why, he does his job more often than not in a position which is really hard to be consistent.

disagree nahas was abysmal for 3 quarters and spent significant time on ball. he was lucky to not be subbed out at half time. if not for his purple patch in the third his day  would have been a total right of. where was he in the last when we needed experienced players to lead from the front.

its this dramatic swing in form not only week to week but quarter to quarter that has so many of the older players in the gun. they are either  poo house or they are okay there is no inbetween with them.

Like i mentioned in my previous post, the nature of the position he plays means he will perform inconsistently. Bottom line is he more than did his job kicking 4 goals and has 22 for the year. Unless a cyril rioli classy goal sneak type comes along he'll be around for a few more yet and deserves his spot too. Look at betts and Garlett, 10 weeks ago they were the deadliest small fwd combo in the league, even rioli has 1 bliner on average every 4-6 weeks and thats in a top side. Small fwds are marked way too harshly by those in the media and supporters.

[Francois Jackson]

yeah was Xman who dropped it

positives:

 and Nahas they did their job and did it well. Jack looks sooo much better when hes on the lead, stop this body on body crap. Nahas continually cops crap from supporters that hes not good enough, not sure why, he does his job more often than not in a position which is really hard to be consistent.

disagree nahas was abysmal for 3 quarters and spent significant time on ball. he was lucky to not be subbed out at half time. if not for his purple patch in the third his day  would have been a total right of. where was he in the last when we needed experienced players to lead from the front.

its this dramatic swing in form not only week to week but quarter to quarter that has so many of the older players in the gun. they are either  poo house or they are okay there is no inbetween with them.

Like i mentioned in my previous post, the nature of the position he plays means he will perform inconsistently. Bottom line is he more than did his job kicking 4 goals and has 22 for the year. Unless a cyril rioli classy goal sneak type comes along he'll be around for a few more yet and deserves his spot too. Look at betts and Garlett, 10 weeks ago they were the deadliest small fwd combo in the league, even rioli has 1 bliner on average every 4-6 weeks and thats in a top side. Small fwds are marked way too harshly by those in the media and supporters.

correct has his faults like others on our list do but gee he doesnt kick 4 goals and we wouldve lost by a lot more

Does his job kicks goals, enough said

[Willy]

Claw, you have clearly drawn a line through Nahas' name already and you judge his performances accordingly. He is actually a handy small forward, and has had a good year. One of the few players in our forward line who actually looks dangerous around the ball.
The kick-stand is very harshly judged. He is the least of our concerns.

[Loui Tufga]

Agree Willy  it's more of a concern that we have to run him through the midfield! Both Nahas and Edwards are better players when they stick around the goals.

[Willy]

We all knew we had no depth, right? So how come now that we have been but-plugged by injuries and we have a bad loss (the first really bad loss for the season) the sky is falling in?

 A few weeks ago North were getting molested and we were smacking the poo out of the dawks. Now all of a sudden North's membership base has sky-rocketed to 39. Even crusty ol WAT has one!
We can still make finals, just need to beat the Dons or blues. Things can turn around pretty quick.  Dimma has us on the right path. There were always going to be hick-ups along the way. Dont blame Dimma for the monumental stuff-ups of the past. He has done far more good than bad. Same goes for Benny G. Just have a cup of cement and enjoy the ride.

Oh yeah, could someone please tell Jackstar for me that he is a stuffing idiot and has NFI about what is good for the club. He is ignoring me. K. thanks.