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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1095 on: July 26, 2015, 03:16:37 PM »
Quote from: al on July 26, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
except none of them panic kick when not under pressure anywhere near as often as he does.

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none of them are young and have upside either

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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1096 on: July 26, 2015, 03:19:15 PM »
4 years in and how many games? yet he panics when he doesnt have to and repeatedly turns the ball over. the forwards must want to throw rocks at him, i know i do.
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1097 on: July 26, 2015, 03:23:43 PM »
ND THE UNLUCKY ONES *
Matthew Boyd (WB),
Josh Bruce (StK),
Shaun Burgoyne (Haw),
 Jeremy Cameron (GWS),
Alipate Carlile (PA),
Shane Edwards (Rich),
Jamie Elliott (Coll),
Brandon Ellis (Rich),
 Josh Gibson (Haw),
Tom McDonald (Melb),
 Jeremy McGovern (WC),
 Robert Murphy (WB),
Easton Wood (WB).

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-21/the-all-australian-midyear-team


MATTHEW LLOYD’S ALL-AUSTRALIAN TEAM AFTER ROUND 11
B: Alex Rance (Richmond), Michael Hurley (Essendon), Dane Rampe (Sydney)
HB: Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn), Harry Taylor (Geelong), Easton Wood (Western Bulldogs)
C: Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood), Nathan Fyfe (Fremantle), Brandon Ellis (Richmond)
HF: Jamie Elliott (Collingwood), Josh Kennedy (West Coast), Daniel Hannebery (Sydney)
F: Eddie Betts (Adelaide), Lance Franklin (Sydney), Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)
FOLL: Aaron Sandilands (Fremantle), Matt Priddis (West Coast), Dylan Shiel (GWS)
INT: Todd Goldstein (North Melbourne), David Armitage (St Kilda), Shane Edwards (Richmond), Andrew Gaff (West Coast)
Coach: Adam Simpson (West Coast)




I am not his biggest fan

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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1098 on: July 26, 2015, 03:28:00 PM »
well thats it case closed.
Lloyd has him in his all arse side so those of us see him panic kick when he is clear must be imagining it.
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1099 on: July 26, 2015, 03:29:47 PM »
http://www.afl.com.au had him in the top 35 in the league

someone seems to rate him

personally i think you can carry, if the rest of the 20 players contained less passengers
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1100 on: July 26, 2015, 03:34:12 PM »
rather than dredging up other morons views on him, why dont you tell us about the valid crtisisms being laid on him and why you dont think they are that important or what makes you think he can overcome them?
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1101 on: July 26, 2015, 03:38:24 PM »
Quote from: al on July 26, 2015, 03:34:12 PM
rather than dredging up other morons views on him, why dont you tell us about the valid crtisisms being laid on him and why you dont think they are that important or what makes you think he can overcome them?

they may be morons but they are morons working for http://www.afl.com.au that happens to be the people running the sport.

imo -  crtisisms being laid on him are very valid

i doubt he will over come them cause contested football is not his thing from my non expert opinion.

my advice would be continue to develop him in like Gaff - but get rid of the spuds like Newman, Houli, Grigg as you can only carry so many sub par players in a 22

Ellis has positive attributes that come in handy, when things are going well. This might have been what had http://www.afl.com.au consitiering him for the mid-season AA side

im assuming he has been coached to do those stuip chip kicks are team instruction

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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1102 on: July 26, 2015, 03:45:36 PM »
i doubt he has been coached to throw the ball onto his boot without picking a target when he is clear. that to me is the biggest thing, because invariably it ends up in the oppositions hands.

im not overly concerned by him being a buffalo girl, they are always part of the mix, but they need to be polished disposes of the ball, something he is not.
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1103 on: July 26, 2015, 04:14:59 PM »
He used to be a good long kick and was always an excellent overhead mark - not even seen seeing that now. Just has no composure at all.  We need to be aggressive and serious at the trade table this off -season and I'd seriously consider offering him up because he'd still have fair value.
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1104 on: July 26, 2015, 04:22:59 PM »
Quote from: yellowandback on July 26, 2015, 09:15:38 AM
I understand the sentiment but would've thought there are 5 or 6 players who are more seasoned and don't have any upside that you would trade or retire ahead of a 21 year old in his 4th season.

That is actually the reason you WOULD trade him

The others have no value, no wants them. This kid would as I said get you a first rounder.

That's what this club needs to do

And for once I just wished they'd be brave at trade time.

This year is as good as any to start, be daring, be brave
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1105 on: July 26, 2015, 04:25:30 PM »
Quote from: dogged on July 26, 2015, 10:32:39 AM
I believe Brandon to be a very good footballer, who just needs to be taken aside by the coaches to learn that he must eradicate the schoolyard kick stats from his game. I would also suggest that maybe some of the assistant coaches , rather than developing structures and video footage of such , actually identify weaknesses in players and focus in on changing those. All the structures and team rules in the world will not cover for individual errors. It's a bit like "if you build your house upon the sand......"

Although I don't agree with your thoughts on Ellis the footballer, I reckon your points about what the assistant coaches should be doing are great. It should be applied to all players
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1106 on: July 26, 2015, 04:28:20 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on July 26, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: yellowandback on July 26, 2015, 09:15:38 AM
I understand the sentiment but would've thought there are 5 or 6 players who are more seasoned and don't have any upside that you would trade or retire ahead of a 21 year old in his 4th season.

That is actually the reason you WOULD trade him

The others have no value, no wants them. This kid would as I said get you a first rounder.

That's what this club needs to do

And for once I just wished they'd be brave at trade time.

This year is as good as any to start, be daring, be brave

Exactly

No one wants grigg or houli

Wake up people
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1107 on: July 26, 2015, 04:31:59 PM »
A few clubs would probably take Grigg & Houli - they just wouldn't give us much for them.
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1108 on: July 26, 2015, 07:41:47 PM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on July 26, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: yellowandback on July 26, 2015, 09:15:38 AM
I understand the sentiment but would've thought there are 5 or 6 players who are more seasoned and don't have any upside that you would trade or retire ahead of a 21 year old in his 4th season.

That is actually the reason you WOULD trade him

The others have no value, no wants them. This kid would as I said get you a first rounder.

That's what this club needs to do

And for once I just wished they'd be brave at trade time.

This year is as good as any to start, be daring, be brave
No it's not. He's our best 21 yo footballer and you give up on him?
He might get better is all I'm saying.
Look at Titch, some are worth waiting for. Composure = Experience
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Re: Brandon Ellis [merged]
« Reply #1109 on: July 26, 2015, 07:44:45 PM »
how is treloars composure?
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