Todd Elton

[1965]

My point is that it doesn't hurt to play a Kpp even if he's young and inexperienced. Might just pay off. But it does give them a taste of what it's like.

Maybe,  but maybe not this match, give him a game at the MCG against an easier side.

How about Sat week against Melboune?

 

[the claw]

Can't agree.....The kid was playing in the development league last week, he clearly has some way to go.

lol he played in the development league because it was his turn. they rotate them thru there because they cant fit all the talls into the seniors.. he will play there again before the yrs out regardless of form because of it.

[the claw]

Can't agree.....The kid was playing in the development league last week, he clearly has some way to go.

Agree. Happy for the club to develop him as they see fit.

agree should have been given a taste before now especially with the likes of vickery struggling and miller a step backwards.

Has he deserved a game yet based on his Coburg form IYO?

lol you should ask the club that one ive advocated all yr we should be giving more kids games regardless.
let me ask how many have actually got a game on the back of 3 or 4 weeks of real good coburg form. the answer not many if any. yet we give players games thats the nature of the beast if we insist on all players performing we couldnt pick a side every week.

[the claw]

Can't agree.....The kid was playing in the development league last week, he clearly has some way to go.

That was pure rotation rubbish, clearly showed he was way above that level

yeh nah.... You can't give big key position forwards a game in the big league! They are way too young and must be nurtured in a poo league surrounded by poo players with substandard skills.

Just ask GWS..... They wouldn't risk Patton or the youngest player in the league, Cameron in the big bad AFL competition! No way they'd get killed in the big league. No no you'll never see those two blokes for atleast 2 years whilst they develope. 
 

here here well said both gc and gws have played a shed load of kids week in week out i dont see too many dying or incapable of coping.

 sheesh all clubs with just 38 on their list proper  really dont have much of an option but give games to kids. players learn just as much in the afl as in the vfl the list nimbers insist we push them thru or fall behind.

[Judge Roughneck]

Will our future fwd line have jack elton vickery? (Long term)

Griff forward or back?

Where does astbury fit in?

[tony_montana]

Will our future fwd line have jack elton vickery? (Long term)

Griff forward or back?

Where does astbury fit in?

They are questions that only performance and development will answer over the next few years, cannot possibly make a call yet

[Judge Roughneck]

Yes we can only ponder

[Penelope]

it would be nice to be in a position where a decent player cant force their way into the side.
still a long way to go to be at that stage, though

[MADTIGER2010]

Bring Elton and Vickery in and bugger off miller

[the claw]

Bring Elton and Vickery in and bugger off miller

disagree vickery is now at a stage where he must go back to coburg and find touch and form. time to earn his stripes because the few points he had in the bank were well and truly used up weeks ago.

grimes morris and foley,  if fit are montys.
would promote one of elton or post and actually reward graham for his his consistent good form at coburg allowing us to use maric in a forward role a bit more.

[Chuck17]

Im sure our mids would prefer the beefcake back in to practise reading the ball off the oppositions ruckman

[tigs2011]

Bring Elton and Vickery in and bugger off miller

disagree vickery is now at a stage where he must go back to coburg and find touch and form. time to earn his stripes because the few points he had in the bank were well and truly used up weeks ago.

grimes morris and foley,  if fit are montys.
would promote one of elton or post and actually reward graham for his his consistent good form at coburg allowing us to use maric in a forward role a bit more.

You want to use the in form ruckman of the league in a forward role? 

[the claw]

why not  40% ruck 60% forward. most people agree we are running him into the ground and he needs some DECENT BACKUP. What you gunna do when he breaks down.
thing is if graham struggles we can always throw maric into the ruck for awhile.
one other thing is ivan has spent significant time as a forward at adelaide here we are screaming out for a ruckman forward of substance well we have one staring at us. what would you rather vickery lol.
we have the form vfl ruckman in graham isnt it time to give him a game id say hes earnt it. id say white has earnt a game as well but at richmond we dont reward good seconds form we prefer to play out of form softies and hope.

people keep throwing up culture at our club. well it sure is crap when we ignore those in form who  have worked hard to get a game and instead persevere  with  regardless of how crap they are players for months on end.

[tigs2011]

why not  40% ruck 60% forward. most people agree we are running him into the ground and he needs some DECENT BACKUP. What you gunna do when he breaks down.
thing is if graham struggles we can always throw maric into the ruck for awhile.
one other thing is ivan has spent significant time as a forward at adelaide here we are screaming out for a ruckman forward of substance well we have one staring at us. what would you rather vickery lol.
we have the form vfl ruckman in graham isnt it time to give him a game id say hes earnt it. id say white has earnt a game as well but at richmond we dont reward good seconds form we prefer to play out of form softies and hope.

people keep throwing up culture at our club. well it sure is crap when we ignore those in form who  have worked hard to get a game and instead persevere  with  regardless of how crap they are players for months on end.

We have the form AFL ruckman too. So why not play him there? If Graham can come in and be a second ruck then that's fine. Graham has always been good at VFL level.

[TigerTimeII]

Graham is crap and any thought of bringing him in the side should not even be discussed.