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Offline Owl

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 12:10:03 PM »
There was a huge knock off industry going at one stage, they had to legislate, basically they were pinching all their art and putting it in rugs and cheap tat and they were not seeing a red cent.  Now the artists get to see some money but the galleries still make a killing, its massive for overseas collectors, very popular.  Lin Onus was one of my favorite artists, he is dead now I believe, used to do these incredible photo-realistic paintings mixed with traditional dot painting, was stunning stuff.  Check these out, they look amazing in real life, they are huge and the detail incredible.
http://www.australianfinearteditions.com/pages/artists_works.php?artistID=5
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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 12:17:27 PM »
There was a huge knock off industry going at one stage, they had to legislate, basically they were pinching all their art and putting it in rugs and cheap tat and they were not seeing a red cent.  Now the artists get to see some money but the galleries still make a killing, its massive for overseas collectors, very popular.  Lin Onus was one of my favorite artists, he is dead now I believe, used to do these incredible photo-realistic paintings mixed with traditional dot painting, was stunning stuff.  Check these out, they look amazing in real life, they are huge and the detail incredible.
http://www.australianfinearteditions.com/pages/artists_works.php?artistID=5

Wow Owl, some of that work is amazing!! Thanks for the link ;)

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 01:32:14 PM »
Thanks Owl

Some sensational art there. Personally have really taken an interest in Indigenous Art over the last couple of years via a friend who has friend (indigenous) in the NT who paints as a hobby and their work is simply brilliant

From the link I really liked the one"Koi at Sankien"



See: http://www.australianfinearteditions.com/pages/enlargement_artists_works.php?current=3&workID=94&artistID=5

Thanks again



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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 01:34:49 PM »
Some of his stuff reminds me of Dali.  :thumbsup

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 03:30:05 PM »
some serious talent there, cheers for the link owl.

While probably not the standard, for some reason i really like this painting. It's an interesting concept.

http://www.breakawayart.com.au/products/the_last_supper/64/1

. Years ago when we were in Perth we met a bloke by the name of Doug Ryder.
he too combined more contemporary style with traditional aboriginal art in his paintings.

One of his painting depicted a story that his grandmother had told him, which had been passed on to her of their clan seeing a ship off the mid western oz coast. the problem was that this was supposedly historically incorrect as there were no record of any ship landing there at this time.

a few years later i saw one of les hiddens shows on explorers. The explorer, ( i cant remember which one) recorded that when travelling through the mid interior of WA he came across a group of dutch people, dressed in their garb trying to make a go living there. as he could not speak dutch nor they english  he could not find out their story.

again, this story is discounted as there are no records of any ships landing in that region or attempts at settlement at the time.

I do wonder if the two are related?
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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 04:28:48 PM »
some serious talent there, cheers for the link owl.

While probably not the standard, for some reason i really like this painting. It's an interesting concept.

http://www.breakawayart.com.au/products/the_last_supper/64/1


Thanks for that link al, liked it too because it is "different" in concept. The Rock maybe in the background it still draws you in

Not making much sense ... but I like 
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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 04:35:01 PM »
Always knew that hooter was a closet latte sipping, beret wearing, bone slacks and boat shoes man.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 05:19:50 PM »
Always knew that hooter was a closet latte sipping, beret wearing, bone slacks and boat shoes man.

Nothing wrong with wearing a beret when you are balls deep

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 05:22:25 PM »
Being away for a month has opened my eyes. 1965 was right about a few people here...thank Geez for the ignore list :)

Nice job, Hooter. Always knew there was more to you than being a crazy old bastard.

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 10:14:55 PM »
Not much more

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 10:16:17 PM »
I'd say less.
Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2012, 10:24:35 PM »
Aboriginal and Torres straight islanders have got strong legal protections on cultural / intellectual property.  It is not kosher to do aboriginal art if you are not aboriginal unless you are given the nod.  Only a few non indigenous artists have been given the go ahead to do this.  It is fair enough, it is like doing knock offs.  There is a strong spiritual element linked with the art.  If you tried to pull a swifty and got found out, they would let Gina Rhinehart use you for a night.

How is it fair enough Owl?  Anyone should be at liberty to express their artistic flair in whatever style choose surely?  Are you saying that only Italians should be allowed to paint in the Michealangelo/Renaissance style.  Are you also saying that aboriginal artists can only paint in their own style - that Albert Namitjira should have been banned?  i was born in Australia so I am also indigenous to this country so why should I be discriminated against in entering this free style artistic competition.  I know you have strong links to the Aboriginal culture but what you are saying just smacks to me of discrimination.

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2012, 10:29:32 PM »
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Who isn't a fan of the thinking man's orange Tim Fleming?

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With their tanks and their bombs,
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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2012, 10:35:26 PM »
Aboriginal and Torres straight islanders have got strong legal protections on cultural / intellectual property.  It is not kosher to do aboriginal art if you are not aboriginal unless you are given the nod.  Only a few non indigenous artists have been given the go ahead to do this.  It is fair enough, it is like doing knock offs.  There is a strong spiritual element linked with the art.  If you tried to pull a swifty and got found out, they would let Gina Rhinehart use you for a night.

How is it fair enough Owl?  Anyone should be at liberty to express their artistic flair in whatever style choose surely?  Are you saying that only Italians should be allowed to paint in the Michealangelo/Renaissance style.  Are you also saying that aboriginal artists can only paint in their own style - that Albert Namitjira should have been banned?  i was born in Australia so I am also indigenous to this country so why should I be discriminated against in entering this free style artistic competition.  I know you have strong links to the Aboriginal culture but what you are saying just smacks to me of discrimination.

Eff me smokes, get over it! It you want to really express yourself like them just grab yourself a sheet of roofing iron and a dozen goon bags and head bush for a few days......

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Re: Dreamtime at the G
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2012, 01:36:49 AM »
i was born in Australia so I am also indigenous to this country so why should I be discriminated against in entering this free style artistic competition.


Smokey, while maybe you are technically and dictionary defined as indigenous to this country, I think the term 'Indigenous Australians' is a term that is common parlance instead of Aborigines, Aboriginals or Aboriginal Australians and from what I understand is more acceptable to them to be described as such. For the purposes of describing the early inhabitants of this country as a collective, without having any racist connotations, the term 'Indigenous Australians' has been working well for about 20 years now. I can't understand why white people would want to try and lay claim to the phrase.

I'm OK with indigenous only entries to this. There is an alarming need to preserve the culture, so much has been lost, and let's face it, look what white people have done to didgeridoos and boomerangs, made in china and sold at the grampians, it's rubbish, maybe we should keep our hands off sometimes. And some things never change in Australia do they- a panel of white men made the decision to run this contest, and a panel of white men will judge it. All shortlisted work is the club's property and the winner will receive no royalties from the sales of the artwork. In the meantime the club can pay six figures for a cartoon channel club logo.

Eff me smokes, get over it! It you want to really express yourself like them just grab yourself a sheet of roofing iron and a dozen goon bags and head bush for a few days......

Early contender for worst post of the year.