A New Tiger Dawn? - Terry Wallace

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Failure as a coach and failure as a journo.

A weathered turd in the fishbowl that is the afl

Nice try dubstep but the plough insults should really be left to Tucker. He owns The Tanned One 

[Loui Tufga]

Failure as a coach and failure as a journo.

A weathered turd in the fishbowl that is the afl

Nice try dubstep but the plough insults should really be left to Tucker. He owns The Tanned One 

Yeah Dubstep, How dare you......

[Judge Roughneck]

wasn't Schultz an early draft pick, not traded for 

we were in a 3 way trade with the roos and adelaide i think. we got Johnson and pick 12 (Schulz), Kangas got pick 2 (Wells) and Adelaide got Torney and Carey. I think I have that right

We should have had wells or goddard. We got screwed because carlton are chests?

[WilliamPowell]

We did, but we were right royally screwed by the AFL.  We actually had choice 4 at the time. I knew people at the club and they felt there were 3 really good players in the draft and the rest you could throw a blanket over. They went to the league and asked if they should get involved with swapping their pick. The league said no worries go ahead. We did. Then at the last moment the league punishes Carlton for breaching the salary cap and suddenly pick 4 becomes pick 2!  We complain to the league and they say bad luck!  The people I knew said to me they NEVER WOULD HAVE TRADED PICK 2.
So by punishing Carlton the AFL also punished us.
The people I knew were very UNHAPPY!

Absolutely correct

when we traded for Johnson we traded pick 4 then weeks later it became pick 2 when the league stripped Carlton of draft picks for salary cheating. The league should have worked out the sanctions against the blues before trade week or delayed trade week ....we were screwed by the league big time

[Mr Magic]

Article on a booking agency website? lolz

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Failure as a coach and failure as a journo.

A weathered turd in the fishbowl that is the afl

Nice try dubstep but the plough insults should really be left to Tucker. He owns The Tanned One 

Yeah Dubstep, How dare you......

Tucker mustve been posting when I posted that. It was good by the Dubber but Tuck just proved my point

[Tigeritis™©®]

We did, but we were right royally screwed by the AFL.  We actually had choice 4 at the time. I knew people at the club and they felt there were 3 really good players in the draft and the rest you could throw a blanket over. They went to the league and asked if they should get involved with swapping their pick. The league said no worries go ahead. We did. Then at the last moment the league punishes Carlton for breaching the salary cap and suddenly pick 4 becomes pick 2!  We complain to the league and they say bad luck!  The people I knew said to me they NEVER WOULD HAVE TRADED PICK 2.
So by punishing Carlton the AFL also punished us.
The people I knew were very UNHAPPY!

Absolutely correct

when we traded for Johnson we traded pick 4 then weeks later it became pick 2 when the league stripped Carlton of draft picks for salary cheating. The league should have worked out the sanctions against the blues before trade week or delayed trade week ....we were screwed by the league big time

What a load of rubbish!!!
The club was screwed by the league???? You've got to be joking??
This was the same draft the club in it's wisdom thought it good to actually pick Shultz, Fleming and let's not forget, "the great" Billy Nicholls.
Reality is they were the worst club at selecting good players and even worse at developing players. Even if they had pick 2 they probably wouldve picked up Shultz earlier.
But even if they sneaked over to another clubs table and copied their short list because other clubs had some clue and actually watched the players (they were thinking of drafting) play, they wouldve ruined the career of that player anyway with pee poor development.
So I wouldn't be blaming the AFL for screwing us over but I'd be blaming the club administration and the worst recruiter in the league.
 Thank God for Benny Gale and finally some vision at Richmond.   

[Loui Tufga]

We did, but we were right royally screwed by the AFL.  We actually had choice 4 at the time. I knew people at the club and they felt there were 3 really good players in the draft and the rest you could throw a blanket over. They went to the league and asked if they should get involved with swapping their pick. The league said no worries go ahead. We did. Then at the last moment the league punishes Carlton for breaching the salary cap and suddenly pick 4 becomes pick 2!  We complain to the league and they say bad luck!  The people I knew said to me they NEVER WOULD HAVE TRADED PICK 2.
So by punishing Carlton the AFL also punished us.
The people I knew were very UNHAPPY!

Absolutely correct

when we traded for Johnson we traded pick 4 then weeks later it became pick 2 when the league stripped Carlton of draft picks for salary cheating. The league should have worked out the sanctions against the blues before trade week or delayed trade week ....we were screwed by the league big time

What a load of rubbish!!!
The club was screwed by the league???? You've got to be joking??
This was the same draft the club in it's wisdom thought it good to actually pick Shultz, Fleming and let's not forget, "the great" Billy Nicholls.
Reality is they were the worst club at selecting good players and even worse at developing players. Even if they had pick 2 they probably wouldve picked up Shultz earlier.
But even if they sneaked over to another clubs table and copied their short list because other clubs had some clue and actually watched the players (they were thinking of drafting) play, they wouldve ruined the career of that player anyway with pee poor development.
So I wouldn't be blaming the AFL for screwing us over but I'd be blaming the club administration and the worst recruiter in the league.
 Thank God for Benny Gale and finally some vision at Richmond.   

And thank god for our leading goal kicker Brad Miller, our season would be up the creek without him!

[The Big Richo]

And thank god for our leading goal kicker Brad Miller, our season would be up the creek without him!

FFS even Tiger from Tas can see it. 

[gerkin greg]

Didn't read Mr Tugra's post because it was too long

But I think I agree

The club shouldn't have been trading pick 4 regardless for an injury ravaged HBF

That had to be the worst draft of all time though

[WilliamPowell]

What a load of rubbish!!!
The club was screwed by the league???? You've got to be joking??
This was the same draft the club in it's wisdom thought it good to actually pick Shultz, Fleming and let's not forget, "the great" Billy Nicholls.
Reality is they were the worst club at selecting good players and even worse at developing players. Even if they had pick 2 they probably wouldve picked up Shultz earlier.
But even if they sneaked over to another clubs table and copied their short list because other clubs had some clue and actually watched the players (they were thinking of drafting) play, they wouldve ruined the career of that player anyway with pee poor development.
So I wouldn't be blaming the AFL for screwing us over but I'd be blaming the club administration and the worst recruiter in the league.
 Thank God for Benny Gale and finally some vision at Richmond.   

So the FACT that when the club traded in good faith what they believed was pick 4 for Johnson and then a month after trade week concluded the AFL decides to stripe Carlton of their picks meaning pick 4 is suddenly pick 2 is the fault of the RFC? To boorw your phrase "What aload of rubbish"

So you think that it is fine that the governing body of the competition, the rule makers that set rules that clubs are foreced to follow can after everyone follows said rules can change them without any warning on something which results in the change of draft positions for ALL clubs is fair, eithical and right ...well good for you....

The rule change mid-stream was wrong and it screwed clubs; ours included

[Penelope]

obviously this part

We actually had choice 4 at the time. I knew people at the club and they felt there were 3 really good players in the draft and the rest you could throw a blanket over.

was not read,comprehended or just ignored by Mr T

[Judge Roughneck]

Funny when we were so called as bad as fitzroy and the media were calling for us to be given charity draft picks the afl or media didnt bring this up but focused only on the fiora/tambling/JON

[YellowandBlackBlood]

obviously this part

We actually had choice 4 at the time. I knew people at the club and they felt there were 3 really good players in the draft and the rest you could throw a blanket over.

was not read,comprehended or just ignored by Mr T

Looks like it doesn't it....

I'll choose to ignore the ramblings of Mr Tigra.  He seems to let aggression and emotion get in the way of reasoning.  There is no point arguing with those types as logic and sense are poorly comprehended.

[Tigeritis™©®]

What a load of rubbish!!!
The club was screwed by the league???? You've got to be joking??
This was the same draft the club in it's wisdom thought it good to actually pick Shultz, Fleming and let's not forget, "the great" Billy Nicholls.
Reality is they were the worst club at selecting good players and even worse at developing players. Even if they had pick 2 they probably wouldve picked up Shultz earlier.
But even if they sneaked over to another clubs table and copied their short list because other clubs had some clue and actually watched the players (they were thinking of drafting) play, they wouldve ruined the career of that player anyway with pee poor development.
So I wouldn't be blaming the AFL for screwing us over but I'd be blaming the club administration and the worst recruiter in the league.
 Thank God for Benny Gale and finally some vision at Richmond.   

So the FACT that when the club traded in good faith what they believed was pick 4 for Johnson and then a month after trade week concluded the AFL decides to stripe Carlton of their picks meaning pick 4 is suddenly pick 2 is the fault of the RFC? To boorw your phrase "What aload of rubbish"

So you think that it is fine that the governing body of the competition, the rule makers that set rules that clubs are foreced to follow can after everyone follows said rules can change them without any warning on something which results in the change of draft positions for ALL clubs is fair, eithical and right ...well good for you....

The rule change mid-stream was wrong and it screwed clubs; ours included

obviously you didn't read my post WP.
You are taking a pot shot at the AFL for making a decision on Carlton after we had already decided to trade our pick. But I'm saying it wouldn't have mattered what pick we had because we were hopeless at picking talent and even worse at developing players.
You can blame the AFL all you want but Richmond has been poo all by itself.