Author Topic: 2012 All-Australian side - Congrats to Cotch & Lids  (Read 19928 times)

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #120 on: September 15, 2012, 04:57:01 PM »
Cotchin on the interchange? WTF!!!???!!!
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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #121 on: September 15, 2012, 06:39:24 PM »
Wheres Riewoldt....Get on to it Montana and get it done.

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Sorry Jack, but three aces trumped you (Age)
« Reply #122 on: September 17, 2012, 03:28:30 AM »
Rohan Connolly has Cotch and Ivan in his All-Australian side but no Jack nor Lids...


Sorry Jack, but three aces trumped you
Rohan Connolly
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September 17, 2012


IT GOES without saying that you can't please everyone when picking an All-Australian team, but generally you'll find reasonable consensus about at least 75 per cent of those selected.
 
Recent years have followed a bit of a pattern, too, a consequence of the way the modern game has become the province of an army of midfield running types supplemented by a few key position players, a couple of smaller forwards and defenders, and one or two ruckmen.

Which makes the task in 2012 just a little different. Normally, most of those keys and the ruckmen tend to pick themselves, the debates spared for which of the long catalogue of worthy midfield candidates should make the cut. This time, in my team at least, it has been the other way around.
 
I've had few issues with my selections of the on-ballers. The far closer call was about which key defenders, forwards and rucks deserved the nod more.
 
Only one Coleman medallist in the past dozen seasons, St Kilda's Fraser Gehrig in 2005, has failed to get the nod as the All-Australian spearhead. When the official team is announced tonight, it might happen again. It did in my version, anyway.
 
As good a year as he had, Jack Riewoldt topped the goalkicking in 2012 with the lowest tally for just on 50 years. The Richmond full-forward was consistent, going goalless only twice, but there weren't so many highs for him, kicking three goals or fewer in 14 games.
 
One of the two runners-up to Riewoldt, Tom Hawkins, just three goals behind, played further afield, and to me was the standout centre half-forward of the season. The other, Matthew Pavlich, was more explosive, won a lot more ball besides, and in a team picked to play, as the team of the year is, sits comfortably in a forward pocket.
 
In the goal square, I couldn't go past Lance Franklin who, despite missing six games, still booted 59 goals, and whose goals-per-game average of 3.7 was a clear best. Apologies Jack, it was a close call.
 
At the other end of the ground, meanwhile, I've made a bigger call still. How North Melbourne's Scott Thompson (and Hawthorn's Josh Gibson for that matter) failed to make the official All-Australian squad of 40 is beyond me.
 
Thompson held the Kangaroos' defence together all season. He shut down plenty of opposition goalkickers, but also proved one of the best defensive rebounders going around, so effective that he led the AFL for intercept possessions and was fourth for rebounds. In my team, both he and his Adelaide midfield namesake get a gong.
 
West Coast skipper and full-back Darren Glass might be a little stiff, but I couldn't go past Luke McPharlin, who was just as effective a negator, and had significantly more disposals, marks and rebounds.
 
One key defender was an easy pick, though, Sydney centre half-back Ted Richards, who not only shut down some big names, but was also a leading source of drive and rebound for his team. His would be a very popular All-Australian nod indeed.
 
I've gone for Grant Birchall and Brent Reilly as my running defenders, with St Kilda's Sean Dempster unlucky, and Brett Deledio perhaps even more so. The Richmond star could have snuck in there or in the midfield, but in the end probably paid a price for time spent in either spot.
 
I'm happy with Collingwood's Dane Swan as a half-forward flanker. The Brownlow medallist had his critics for alleged lack of defensive pressure, but in this side that's a quality hardly lacking, and how do you overlook an output that is close to an average 36 disposals per game?
 
As for the small forward spot, it's St Kilda veteran Stephen Milne for me. While you can't fault Cyril Rioli's class or tackling pressure, Milne kicked 56 goals to the Hawk's 35. That's the small forward's bread and butter and, in scoreboard terms, Milne was clearly the most effective of his kind.
 
In the ruck, Dean Cox is a lock.
 
My second ruckman is Richmond recruit Ivan Maric. Adelaide's Sam Jacobs had his claims, Nic Naitanui is undoubtedly spectacular, but Maric, as well as running a very close second for hitout numbers, did a power of work around the ground, a clear leader of his type for clearances and tackles.
 
Midfielders? That's easier. Trent Cotchin, Jobe Watson, Gary Ablett, Patrick Dangerfield, the other Thompson, Dayne Beams, Josh Kennedy and Sam Mitchell were clear selections, and Scott Pendlebury's season good enough.
 
Close but just squeezed out in the end were Kieren Jack and Andrew Swallow.
 
The football landscape can certainly change quickly. A glance back at my mid-season team shows it has changed by almost half in just three months. Swans runner and goalkicker Lewis Jetta losing a little touch the longer the season has gone, mids such as Brent Stanton and Steele Sidebottom tailing off. Taylor Walker and Joel Selwood were just surpassed by rivals with bigger finishes.
 
No shame in that, and those last two in particular are candidates for whom you could still argue a strong case. As with any All-Australian team, though, it's not who makes it, but who doesn't, that is always the bigger bone of contention.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/sorry-jack-but-three-aces-trumped-you-20120916-260ul.html#ixzz26ecn5rkZ


B:   Beau Waters (WC)        Luke McPharlin (Fre)     Scott Thompson (NM)

HB: Grant Birchall (Haw)     Ted Richards (Syd)       Brent Reilly (Ade)

C: Patrick Dangerfield (Ade)  Jobe Watson (Ess)     Dayne Beams (Col)

HF: Scott Pendlebury (Col)    Tom Hawkins (Gee)    Dane Swan (Col)

F:   Stephen Milne (StK)       Lance Franklin (Haw)   Matthew Pavlich (Fre)

Foll: Dean Cox (WC)      Trent Cotchin (Ric)         Gary Ablett (GC)

Int: Ivan Maric (Ric), Scott Thompson (Ade), Sam Mitchell (Haw), Josh Kennedy (Syd)

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #123 on: September 17, 2012, 03:29:36 AM »
Adrian Anderson, Kevin Bartlett, Gerard Healy, Luke Darcy, Glen Jakovich, Danny Frawley, Mark Ricciuto and Andrew Demetriou decide the 2012 All-Australian side.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/catch-22-has-never-been-more-appropriate-as-all-australian-selectors-wrestle-with-final-call/story-e6frf9jf-1226475177679

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #124 on: September 17, 2012, 07:58:18 AM »
Adrian Anderson, Kevin Bartlett, Gerard Healy, Luke Darcy, Glen Jakovich, Danny Frawley, Mark Ricciuto and Andrew Demetriou decide the 2012 All-Australian side.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/catch-22-has-never-been-more-appropriate-as-all-australian-selectors-wrestle-with-final-call/story-e6frf9jf-1226475177679

That list doesn't inspire me with any confidence that they know what they're doing.

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #125 on: September 17, 2012, 09:53:08 AM »
Pick Your 2012 Four'N Twenty AFL All Australian Team and Win

Thanks to Four 'N Twenty, you can pick your 22-man All Australian Team from the squad of 40 and win a guernsey signed by this year's team.

http://www.afl.com.au/NewsViews/MajorEvents/AllAustralian/tabid/863/Default.aspx

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2012, 01:49:15 PM »
Pavlich hasn't been invited to the All-Australian tonight so I'd take it from that he isn't in the final 22.

Does that mean Jack is in as the Coleman medallist? He'll still be up aganst Franklin, Hawkins and Petrie.
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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #127 on: September 17, 2012, 01:50:44 PM »
A joke if Frawley's on the panel

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2012, 02:07:22 PM »
3AW's All Australian Team Selections
3AW FOOTBALL
6 September, 2012



MICK MALTHOUSE'S TEAM

          B: Glass, Richards, Dempster

          HB: Waters, McPharlin, Birchall

          C: Pendlebury, Kennedy, Swan

          HF: Dangerfield, Petrie, Ablett

          F: Betts, Hawkins, Naitanui

          R: Cox, Thompson, Beams

          INT: Selwood, Watson, Cotchin, Mitchell


BRIAN TAYLOR'S TEAM:

          B: Taylor, Glass, Enright

          HB: Lonergan, McPharlin, Deledio

          C: Dangerfield, Mitchell, Swan

          HF: Kennedy, Franklin, Rioli

          F: Pavlich, Hawkins, Milne

          R: Jacobs, Selwood, Ablett

          INT: Beams, Watson, Thompson, Cotchin


Any so called expert who doesn't have Cotchin in their starting 18 knows sweet FA about footy or has been living under a rock this season.
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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2012, 02:58:23 PM »
A joke if Frawley's on the panel
He might pick Jack because he'll see Riewoldt and think it's Nick  :wallywink.
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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #130 on: September 17, 2012, 03:00:49 PM »
Pavlich is stiff to miss out this year, best season I've seen from him to date in all honesty but this prob makes up for the 2 or 3 he was gifted early on in his career.

I really hope Lids gets a gig tonight, has been robbed the past 2 years, surely this year he finally gets a gong

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #131 on: September 17, 2012, 03:13:37 PM »
Wheres Riewoldt....Get on to it Montana and get it done.

Fug him and u chucky boy, ranga doesn't deserve it but will get it anyway now that news confirms Pav missed out. Bonus as he will pee it in year in year out if he plays the footy he's capable of.

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #132 on: September 17, 2012, 03:20:18 PM »
Pavlich is stiff to miss out this year, best season I've seen from him to date in all honesty but this prob makes up for the 2 or 3 he was gifted early on in his career.

I really hope Lids gets a gig tonight, has been robbed the past 2 years, surely this year he finally gets a gong

Agree with all that TM.

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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #133 on: September 17, 2012, 03:25:43 PM »
Pavlich hasn't been invited to the All-Australian tonight so I'd take it from that he isn't in the final 22.

Does that mean Jack is in as the Coleman medallist? He'll still be up aganst Franklin, Hawkins and Petrie.

I don't get it, wouldn't the squad of 40 all get invited?

Maybe he has a surgery or something booked in and can't make it, and is playing funny buggers by saying he didn't get an invite.
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Re: All-Australian side - any Tigers?
« Reply #134 on: September 17, 2012, 03:40:27 PM »
lids in hospital recovering from knee op
wont be able to make it.

alas,  i dont he will get in anyway which
would be a rip off for the guy.