Sack Hardwick [merged]

[big tone]

We haven't failed in years with our first pick. The closest I would suggest is two solid players in Conca and Vickery who are still developing. Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty and Vlaustin are all successes. Lennon is too young to judge. I have faith in getting a good player with our first pick....our later picks, well that's another matter 

hmm jon, vickery, and conca are not successes for where they were taken and the time they have had. the clock is ticking . as for vlastuin well hes coming off second yr blues where he was terrible at times. for the life of me how anyone can claim him a success yet is beyond me.
ellis has issues and rance has had em.
coupoled with abysmal failure in the following rounds of the nd and i really am bemused at how jackson is immune from criticism. ffs hes had 10 yrs and he can only hang his hat on a handful of players.
yep lets go to the nd well and back fj in. its utter stupidity tantamoubt to putting oines head in the sand. ah only at richmond.

Vickery and Conca so far are solid so I wouldn't call them failures and JON is going a long way back now  . Reckon given what Vlaustin has shown in his first two years (yes he had some down moments but still had some up moments too) he is a success at least for now. Everything can change...

At pick 6 Conca is a fail. Could possibly  it around but IMO he just has to many deficiencies. If he was pick 45ish he would be an ok pick up. He is a run with player at best I recon.

[tigs2011]

Putting things like gameplan, list management, selection & matchday tactics aside for the moment, for me the canary in the mineshaft will be if there's no real and sustained change in mindset from our players in relation to things like two-way running, chasing, tackling & shepherding or any noticeble improvement in fitness. If, going into their sixth season, these fundamental areas are still not improved upon then it will tell us they never will be under the current coaching regime and that regime needs to be removed a.s.a.p.

Spot on. They're basics at the top 4 clubs except possibly Norf. 

[tdy]

Say we flunk next year and Hardwick gets the boot. Would you take Bomber Thompson on? IMHO I would even given his issues.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Say we flunk next year and Hardwick gets the boot. Would you take Bomber Thompson on? IMHO I would even given his issues.

lets just say I know people who know him. I would stay clear.  He is a loose canon. Rather Choco Williams.

[The Big Richo]

Woosha Worsfold or Voss.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Woosha Worsfold or Voss.

Funny you mention Vossy. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes over next.

[bojangles17]

Woosha Worsfold or Voss.

lol , great credentials ,   both finished leaving their clubs a train wreck  yeah lets get em 

[The Big Richo]

Turn it up Bojo, the Whoosh is a premiership coach with a strike rate over 53%.

Voss was always going to be a good coach, just needed an apprenticeship before he took the job on and he has that experience now.

Hardwick doesn't compare to either of them in terms of commanding respect.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Say the rucm kid talked about as top 3, is still there at 12

If hardwick games the car - does hardwick get the kid that could be the best player on the draft pool? Probably not cause he won't develop for three years.

Or do we reach for the fat slow inside mid? That'll do something asap

His job is on the line, he knows it.

All policy will be with short term thinkingbin mind.

Political Damien

You could ask why nobody picked him with the 11 previous picks too Bents! Are they all trying to save their jobs?

[Judge Roughneck]

Yeah, you could.

Yeah, most of them are

[yandb]

It was my understanding that after Terry was instrumental in the Jon and Mc muffin debacle that Richardson was brought in with a mandate to be aware of the coaches needs but not to compromise the list with our selections

[RedanTiger]

It was my understanding that after Terry was instrumental in the Jon and Mc muffin debacle that Richardson was brought in with a mandate to be aware of the coaches needs but not to compromise the list with our selections

Long time between JON/McMahon and Richardson.

Don't think there has been any limitation on "coach's picks" when you look at the picks from when Hardwick/Hartley started.
2010 - Grigg, Houli, Derrickx, Gourdis, Miller, Hislop, Jakobi.
2011 - I Maric, Morris, A Maric.
2012 - Knights, Chaplin, Edwards, Petterd, Lonergan, Stephenson.
2013 - Hampson, Gordon, Lloyd, Banfield, Miles, Thomas.
All older experienced players bought onto the list to fill holes the coach identified. 

[Judge Roughneck]

Say the rucm kid talked about as top 3, is still there at 12

If hardwick games the car - does hardwick get the kid that could be the best player on the draft pool? Probably not cause he won't develop for three years.

Or do we reach for the fat slow inside mid? That'll do something asap

His job is on the line, he knows it.

All policy will be with short term thinkingbin mind.

Political Damien

You could ask why nobody picked him with the 11 previous picks too Bents! Are they all trying to save their jobs?

Grundy  comes to mind

Everyone I think wanted him

But no one wanted to miss out on a mid for the good of next year and nt getting sacked

[Diocletian]

Please edit thread title to "Sack Jackson". Thanks.

[Judge Roughneck]

Bomber / Voss ticket