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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2012, 12:54:36 PM »
:lol

From BomberBlitz

Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.

 :lol have to love the delusion they could get Tyson for anything less than a first round and a not-quite-fringe player  :lol

It's not just bummer blitz. It's a generic bummer thing.  My boss said "we'll just trade the first round compensation pick we get for Gumbleton to GC for Caddy."  :rollin

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2012, 12:54:52 PM »
:lol

From BomberBlitz

Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.

Also read another one on there which said Dyson for Tyson straight swap lol.
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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2012, 01:25:23 PM »
:lol

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Giles and Tyson for Bell(chambers) and maybe our 3rd rounder is a good trade.

 :lol have to love the delusion they could get Tyson for anything less than a first round and a not-quite-fringe player  :lol

It's not just bummer blitz. It's a generic bummer thing.  My boss said "we'll just trade the first round compensation pick we get for Gumbleton to GC for Caddy."  :rollin

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2012, 02:19:40 PM »
lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.

they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.
as everyone knows i think rance over rated but its obvious he has plenty of trade value as others do rate him.

it depends on just how highl;y you rate tyson is him and 24 worth more than rance and 9.
are we in a position yet to be doing these deals lots of things to weigh up. one thing for sure gc would laugh in our faces if we offered up hacks like nahas etc.
they are losing a player who as a junior is just as highly rated as cotchin or martin was in their drafts. bloody hell we knocked back 6 and 14 to get martin at 3. would we be prepared to offer up 9 and rance for dustin martin thats the equivalant imo.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2012, 02:25:41 PM »
the crux is how how highly  tyson is rated compared to how highly the kids likely to be availabale at 9 are rated
Unless they rate him a great deal higher then only expendable players will the thrown in as a sweetener.

Pick 9 is the core, the players will only make up the difference between tyson and this years  potential pick 9.
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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2012, 04:01:08 PM »
they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24 a pick they are unlikely to use anyway.

Rance and pick 9.  Might as well throw in Cotchin while you are at it.  I am glad you are not in charge of our trading.  We would have nothing left inside a couple of years.

If they want a defender, give them Post or Griffiths and 9 for Tyson and 24.

I agree with Al's comments.  Isn't this draft supposed to be stronger than previous years?  I wouldn't get too carried away rating GWS development.  Getting thrashed every week isn't a great way to develop footballers.  The year he has spent there has probably been detrimental to his development.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2012, 04:29:21 PM »
we could all be barking up the wrong tree here.

did sheean say we would target a top ten draft pick for GWS, next year, when the player in question comes out of contract?
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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2012, 08:19:23 PM »
lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.

they need defenders it would take pick 9 and rance for tyson and their pick 24

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #98 on: September 21, 2012, 07:36:49 AM »
lol at post nahas white edwards being offered up. they are going to at the least want quality for quality. or at the least a player who they know can fill a need.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #99 on: September 21, 2012, 07:47:21 AM »
Why would we have to give up quality for an unknown quality?
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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2012, 09:03:20 AM »
Rance alone should get us Tyson and pick 24, but i'm against trading Rance anyway.
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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #101 on: September 21, 2012, 10:15:31 AM »
Rance is the lynch-pin of our backline. He has as much chance as Jack to be traded, not impossible but far from probable.

The club has identified our backlines and Rances weaknesses in general and are trying to recruit a player which will cover these deficencies in Chaplin. Rance hasn't the strength to go with the monster forwards but has the pace and size to go with the larger mobile types. With Chaplin in the team our run out of defense will be hard to stop. Rance, Grimes, Morris and Newman can all link up well and run out of defense. Players like Batchelor and Ellis add depth this this area. The big stopper/shut down defender is where we have been lacking down back.

Rance won't be traded.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #102 on: September 21, 2012, 10:18:27 AM »
Like Al said, the player component isn't important as long as it could be a required player for them. The sell is whether or not they think they can get a better player or not with pick 9.

This is all speculation anyway. But if it were the case then we would compare the players we think can get at pick 9 vs Tyson. GWS would do the same. The extra player component is a sweetener, not the crux. Us trading a quality and required player would entirely defeat the purpose.

If this deal didn't get done this off season then IMO next year will be a repeat of the Caddy situation and every other club will be in trying to cut our grass. Not getting my hopes up on this one to be honest.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #103 on: September 21, 2012, 10:19:18 AM »
Rance is the lynch-pin of our backline. He has as much chance as Jack to be traded, not impossible but far from probable.

The club has identified our backlines and Rances weaknesses in general and are trying to recruit a player which will cover these deficencies in Chaplin. Rance hasn't the strength to go with the monster forwards but has the pace and size to go with the larger mobile types. With Chaplin in the team our run out of defense will be hard to stop. Rance, Grimes, Morris and Newman can all link up well and run out of defense. Players like Batchelor and Ellis add depth this this area. The big stopper/shut down defender is where we have been lacking down back.

Rance won't be traded.

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Re: Richmond targets a GWS young gun
« Reply #104 on: September 21, 2012, 10:28:34 AM »
RoboRance.