E Edwards is a gimp.
No Joni brown or w Carey.
Exactly. And should never had been even considered for our club.
As pointless as Miller as he will never be part of any premiership tilt.
But on what ive read on some posts since picking him up he's a Monty for 30-40 goals next season.
Rubbish!
He shouldn't be given a game. He's still an 17 year old in a 29 year old body. Grow up.
lol going by that sydney should never have played bolton, goodes, malceski, mattner, okeefe, pyke, richards, roberts-thompson, and shaw all 28 plus this yr the same as edwards all obviously too old to play the game. yet all played in a premiership.
unlike sydney we have just 3 28 yr olds edwards makes 4 the list is overflowing with old men lol.
seems some just cant grasp that there is two sides to recruiting short term and med to long term. the aim of getting someone like edwards, chaplin, and knights even i maric the last 3 26 yr olds all would be classified as short term options, is to quickly make finals and allow us time to develop younger blokes to take their places when the real push happens. they are also taken to fill depth problems in the list.ie we have just 2 genuine medium sized forwards brett ohanlon and now edwards he sure as hell is ready to go and he sure as hell fills up a gap in the list.
when will you ever realise not all recruiting decisions are long term decisions. you want finals you better get your head around the need to take your fair share of mature players.
aaron edwards did exactly what wrong.
lets see he got drunk with mates at a time when all players at all clubs are allowed to drink and have a good time, the off season. i know lets just sack every player who gets drunk this off season regardless of weather they get caught out or not.
we all get drunk apart from the odd tee totaller and we all get drunk at times way past the age of 28. why do you think footballers should be any different to everyone else in their spare time.
finally if you cant see the reasons for taking miller and the need to get an experienced player like him for the short term. all i can say is thank god you have nothing to do with the club.
Aaron Edwards did exactly what wrong? You asked...
The fact that you must ask says much about your knowledge on AFL matters.
First of all he's a fringe player with limited ability.
Secondly he's been at 3 clubs with limited game time in senior footy.
Thirdly he's 29 years old.
Lastly hes just been given a life line at his third club and if he had any brain would/should do anything & everything to make one last go at it at AFL level. Considering the fact that Richmond is regarded as an up & coming team you'd think he'd finally pull his head in and say to himself, ok I've got a couple of years left I'm gonna be the best I can be and maybe just give up the booze till I'm finished playing.
Why should AFL players be any different you ask? Again it's very clear to me but ill explain it to you very clearly so you can understand.....
An AFL career is very short on average. So what's a few years to maximize the best of what talent you possess and give yourself every opportunity to excell, not just for yourself but for the team that's given you the opportunity.
Aaron "Lockup" Edwards, is at the end of his somewhat limited career thus far and was given an opportunity by a third club ( stupid as the decision may be) to be a depth player for them.
He had a choice to make but given his history and playing career you'd have thought it would've been a chance to prove something and you never know what can happen. But the choice he made underlines how dumb this guy is and that he should never be given the opportunity to wear the tiger jumper for being so stupid.
Facts are he's not even a has been. He's a wannabe hack, he's still an immature kid and he'll never ever lead us anywhere. Players like him shouldn't even considered for this club especially if they are 29 years old unless we are in the top four and we are getting a role specific player to get us into a premiership which is nowhere near where we as a club are at our current development.
okay seems i didnt have to fly off so will get into the rest of your post.
yep i asked exactly what was it a edwards did wrong and you conveniently sidestepped the question.
i will tell you what he did. he got drunk now the last time i looked that wasnt a crime. he got drunk in the off season a period where he is allowed to drink and act like a normal person for a few months.
do we sack every player in the off season who gets drunk or has a few too many after mostly abstaining from feb to sept each yr.
he did nothing wrong and he certainly didnt do anything that most players have not done this off season.
you call for his head be consistent and call for everyones head who has gut drunk in the off season.
as a afl player who abides by very stringent team rules for most of the yr who can begrudge him or any of the players (and you kid yourself if you think a large percentage havent been drunk this offseason ) having a few too many in his time away from those strict team rules.
his record at north is one of a hard trainer who doesnt let his drinking get in the way of what he needs to do during the footy season.
firstly what has the fact hes been a fringe player at north got to do with it. the only question i need to ask is he a better option than the other forwards we have, fringe player or not.
is he a type of player that we dont have, and does he fill a gap. the answer to those questions is an emphatic yes. the hope is he will be a regular at richmond.
recent fringe players are - houli struggled to get a game at essendon so did ivan maric and sean grigg but they were better options than what we had and they improved us.
they all bought badly needed experience to a side/ list lacking in it.
chris knights is a fringe player who has less form than edwards over the last 2 yrs is 26 yrs old but i dont hear you complaining about him oh thats right knights mustnt drink or if he does he just doesnt do it in public. and hes not 29. your hung up on age and your hung up on the fact players get drunk every now and then like the rest of us. . knights brings badly needed experience depth and fills a hole just like edwards.
secondly richmond is his third club the eagles let him go at the end of 2005 when he got in trouble.so he paid a price for mucking up.he knuckled down in 06 kicked over 100 goals in the vfl and got picked up by north.
the simple fact is edwards was contracted for this yr he would have been at nm this yr but we enquired about him seeing he was on the outer a bit and north seemingly having better options. so he wasnt on a last chance we actually went out and targeted him because he filled a hole and had more to offer than players we have. very similar to houli grigg knights etc.
thirdly - hes 29 whoopy do. does his age matter? we went over podsiadly at 29. hands up who would take him every day of the week yes please.. well you wouldnt you would rather use that pick on a kid where history says we waste two or three yrs trying to bulk him up and iron out his faults only to delist him having never played a game after 2 or 3 seasons.
you dont seem capable of grasping there are two types of recruiting. long term and short term, or useing late nd psd and rookie picks on kids is largely a waste of time where you get absolutely no return at all on your investment.
its incumbent upon all clubs to do both weather your a finals contender or a bottom 4 side. the age of a short term player doesnt matter as long as you look after the long term with good picks in the nd.
the last time i looked we have 4 picks in the top 43 and they will all be used on kids.personally id take another two 28 29 yr olds as long as they can play and improve our list and fill a need that allows kids who are not ready time to develop in the seconds. as long as we use those 4 nd picks on kids. seems with edwards knights and chaplin we have gone down that path we could do a few more.
lastly well i think i already established we werent offering him some sort of lifeline id say we offered him the opportunity to play regular senior footy and to opt out of his final yr of contract at north.
finally you may be right he may be a hack but hes a better standard of hack than many who are currently getting a game for us to me that makes him an upgrade yes a hack but an upgrade with it. you have heard of the term value add most teams do it.
I never sidestepped the question.
What did he do wrong. He got peeed just after getting picked up by us, his third club.
What sort of moron is this guy. He's had problems at both clubs to the point where he struggles to get consistant games probably a detrimental influence to youngsters. Why isn't he still playing at west coast? Why doesn't north want him anymore?
Of Knights, Maric, Houli, Grigg they aren't 29 and none of them have a history of any sort of problems at their former clubs. They are good players who weren't given consistant games for other reasons ie form, injury, other players ahead of them.
You can't even compare Edwards to any of these players.
And I'll ask this question again in case you missed it.
Did Houli, grigg Maric or knights ever get locked up during the off season?
Lastly you can't even compare Edwards to J-Pod. Edwards isn't worthy to tie his shoe laces.
ill answer your question. but ive made my point and am pretty happy with my opinion on the subject.i wont reply to the rest its not worth going around in circles over and over.
anyway to answer your question. no those players never got locked up. houli aside as im not sure if muslims actually drink i bet the other two at some stage had more than they should and got peeed.
so he got drunk nothing more or less. but he got locked up to sober up. he caused no problems and didnt break any laws. and was then realeased. did he even get fined.
so he got drunk exactly the same as most players have done in the off season im sure.
is it the fact he got peeed or the fact he got locked up that you have a problem with. if he didnt get locked up your okay with it is that right.
you are in ga ga land if you think young men are not enrtitled to party hard in the off season.
just one other thing your right maric houli knights and grigg arent 28. edwards is 28 he turns 29 in march next yr. maric and knights both turn 27 next yr ivan in january. theres every chance they will not be there when we play for a premiership and if they are there they will be past their best and in their 30s.
as i said your hung up on age and your hung up on people who drink. you ignore list needs and have tunnel vision about recruiting.
edwards brings experience, he kicks goals hes a type we have just one of in ohanlon whos 19 and no where near it and the best place for him to develop would be coburg for now. edwards is actually an upgrade on our sml/med forwards. as such he improves our list i for one dont have a poroblem with us taking him i just wish we took moloney as well another 28 yr old. i would have been happy to take 5 players aged 22 thru 30 just as long as we take 5 kids in the nd and rookie draft. we need to recruit for both the short term and long term with aim to always improve the over all standard of the list.
anyway we sure as hell disagree on this. me im happy with my stance. there is no reason why we cant embrace both kids in the nd and mature/senior players with late nd/rookie/trades to to improve the overall standard of the list and fill holes that kids dont currently fill because they arent ready or good enough or holes where we dont have kids to start with..
i will say it again list management is not about age its about balancing out your list with both experience and the right numbers in type.
edwards record at north is one of a good clubman and a good trainer and hes a damn better medium forward than any player we have brett ohanlon is the only one and he is so far off it atm one has to question if he will make it. edwards improves our list at little or no cost. i will say though we need to look at a kid like kieren harper if there or a max duffy we need more than ohanlon and we should not have all our eggs in one long term basket.
