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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2012, 07:51:10 PM »
You must also take into account that we reduced debt by $1.5mil which makes the result look even better!! Stop being doomsdayers, the FTF was about reducing debt and beefing up FD spending, so after doing all that and without the FTF we still would have made a significant profit.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2012, 08:01:51 PM »
You must also take into account that we reduced debt by $1.5mil which makes the result look even better!! Stop being doomsdayers, the FTF was about reducing debt and beefing up FD spending, so after doing all that and without the FTF we still would have made a significant profit.

How can you say that?

Without seeing the actual accounts you cannot make that assumption.

I also don't see how raising a fair question about what the clubs profit from operations is being a "doomsdayer" it is relevant especially considering last year the club was specific in highlighting as a separate number what our operating profit was outside of our overall profit.

As I said all will be revealed once the accounts are released to the members  ;D

Can I add that it is pleasing to read that the Wantrina Club's performance has improved during this year. It needed too!
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2012, 08:20:03 PM »
I can say it easily!

If we didn't reduce debt by $1.5mil and hadn't contributed to the resurfacing of pro then the profit would have been probably $5mil plus! Take away say $3mil for the FTF and it would have been approx $2 mil profit....

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2012, 09:35:52 PM »
Its a good result. Well done to Brendon and his team. Looking forward to seeing Richmond completely debt free at some point over the next 2 years IMHO.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2012, 09:52:57 PM »
I can say it easily!

If we didn't reduce debt by $1.5mil and hadn't contributed to the resurfacing of pro then the profit would have been probably $5mil plus! Take away say $3mil for the FTF and it would have been approx $2 mil profit....

Errrr no.... doesn't quite work like that

However, I'll play along ...so....

Using your figures the reduction in debt was funded by the FTF which is recorded in total revenues so right there our $3 mil profit becomes $1.5mil. As for the resurfacing of Punt Road which is costing another $1.5 which again is being funded by the FTF which comes out of total revenues then that wipes out the entire $3mil profit.

Simply using your logic and based on what we've told so far if you take out all monies rec'd from the FTF there is no profit  ;D

You are making an assumption that the cost of reducing the debt & resurfacing are expenses to the P&L which they are not, they are balance sheet transactions

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2012, 10:25:56 PM »
Concise Financial Statements up on the RFC web-site


http://win-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/concisereport2012.pdf

Certainly a typo re sponsorship revenues  ;D

Report says total sponsorship & marketing revenues:
$19,323,900

Slightly more than the $3.5 mil in the presser  ;D

Another good number the reduction in finance costs (read interest) $190k down from $299k in 2011

Will have read tonight, though it is only the concise report not the full report. Prefer the full report as it gives a lot more detail  ;D
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2012, 10:33:09 PM »

Prefer the full report as it gives a lot more detail  ;D

Always the accountant!   ;D

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2012, 10:33:21 PM »
Would be interesting to see the sponsorship/marketing $$$ income compared to the other clubs.

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2012, 02:24:24 AM »
Well done RFC  :clapping.

The Club planned to be debt free by 2014. So that's a million a year needed to be paid off next year and the year after. This year we paid off $1.57m.

Concise Financial Statements up on the RFC web-site

http://win-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/concisereport2012.pdf
Total revenue from operating activities - $37.6m (up $4.2m). Not sure where the FTF monies are listed under?

Net assets & total equity - $19m (up $3m).

AFL guarantee to the bank has been reduced from $5m to $3m as our borrowings owed has been reduced from $3.5m to $1.97m. Interest payments down from $299k to $190k.

Gaming and social revenue at least is now heading upwards.

Receipts from gaming and social operations
                           $             
2003             6,280,807
2004             5,815,571
2005             6,268,598   
2006             6,397,903
2007             5,824,755 ......... smoking ban
2008             5,771,663
2009             5,518,281
2010             5,371,647
2011             3,410,144 ......... loss of Royal Oak
2012             3,774,743


(Provision)/release for Wartirna Club onerous lease
                           $
2008          (1,540,000)
2009              160,000
2010              160,000
2011              520,000
2012              700,000

Sources: Financial reports from 2004-2012:
2012 - http://win-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/concisereport2012.pdf
2011 - http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/2011financials.pdf
2010 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12217.0
2009 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=10387.0
2007 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=6251.0
2006 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4168.0
2005 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=2492.0
2004 - http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=1127.0
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2012, 02:33:43 AM »
Certainly a typo re sponsorship revenues  ;D

Report says total sponsorship & marketing revenues:
$19,323,900

Slightly more than the $3.5 mil in the presser  ;D
WP, maybe that 'sponsorship revenue' relates to major sponsorships on the jumper and shorts from Jeep, Bingle and Harvery Norman?
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2012, 03:19:36 AM »
Tigers claw in the cash

    Michael Gleeson
    The Age
    November 20, 2012



THEY have made the finals just twice in the last 30 years, but Richmond has posted its greatest ever financial profit, the dormant giant of the AFL making more than $3million this year. Incredibly the Tigers record profit was $1million more than the operating profit posted by grand finalist Hawthorn, which was announced last week.

The Richmond result included contributions from its Fighting Tiger Fund, but Richmond has now posted financial profits for eight years running.

The profit meant Richmond had reduced its debt by $1.5million to below $2million - down more than $2.5million in two years. Richmond narrowly missed the finals this year meaning they cannot now fulfil the ambitious plan of "3-0-75", the promise of three finals appearances, zero debt and 75,000 members within five years that they set three years ago.

While they were short of the on-field target, the strongly supported Tigers are now on track for the off-field goal, with debt likely to be wiped out and the rising membership of 53,072 a significant factor in the club profit. The club also has record sponsorship income of $3.4million.

Richmond last played finals in 2001, and before that 1995, their only finals appearances since 1982 when they were runner-up to Carlton. The club is investing heavily in its football department in a bid to address that woeful record.

"Our football department is better resourced than it has ever been. Our players will shortly have a state-of-the art Punt Road Oval on which to train, which compliments the ME Bank Centre, new cutting-edge equipment and technology has been purchased, we have enhanced coaching and recruiting structures, and we will stand alone in the VFL competition from 2014," club president Gary March said, welcoming the profit result.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-claw-in-the-cash-20121119-29lwm.html#ixzz2Cgb3jQsb

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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2012, 07:53:27 AM »
WP, maybe that 'sponsorship revenue' relates to major sponsorships on the jumper and shorts from Jeep, Bingle and Harvery Norman?

Perhaps  :huh


Prefer the full report as it gives a lot more detail  ;D

Always the accountant!   ;D

Yep even in semi-retirement  ;D

Well done RFC  :clapping.

The Club planned to be debt free by 2014. So that's a million a year needed to be paid off next year and the year after. This year we paid off $1.57m.

Concise Financial Statements up on the RFC web-site

http://win-cdn220-is-1.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afltigers0/concisereport2012.pdf
Total revenue from operating activities - $37.6m (up $4.2m). Not sure where the FTF monies are listed under?


Last year it was sponsorship & marketing so it would need to be in the same area  ;D

Have requested a copy of the full financials - can't wait  ;D :thumbsup :rollin
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2012, 09:35:14 AM »
Richmond narrowly missed the finals this year meaning they cannot now fulfil the ambitious plan of "3-0-75", the promise of three finals appearances, zero debt and 75,000 members within five years that they set three years ago.

If we play 3 finals in 2013, doesn't that count as 3 finals appearances?   :huh
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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2012, 09:48:18 AM »

Think it's important that they are consistent in how they report this stuff  ;D :thumbsup


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Re: Richmond makes record $3 million profit !!!
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2012, 11:01:06 AM »
Have we worked out what profit has been made that can be sustained that is separate from the FTF donations?
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