I don't think anyone here has argued that he doesn't need to improve santa.....
Well what the eff are they arguing about, thats all i have basically said myself.I have had the guts to say he needs to find more ball and for a bloke playing 23 games playing in the middle at 21 yrs of age in his third season it is not good enough and must improve. Whats to argue.
What areas do they think he needs to improve. All i get here is yeah we know he needs to improve and thats it.Who here doesnt think he needs to find more ball in the role of a wingman.
god you talk crap. thats not basically all you have said yourself, you even continue to say that his ouput is not up to your expectations at this point in career
Whats this bollocks about being in his third season? It's BS, that's what it is. He has played 20 odd games of senior football, yet you expect him to be getting so much more. you are not saying that simply that he needs to improve, you saying that his output is not up to what you expect now. you claim that are are many players you have better stats in similar situations but wont name them.
For some queer reason you seem to think playing senior football is not how players gain experience and improve, and therfore have unrealistic expectations of what they can achieve when get their chance.
on the other hand no one has said that he doesn't need to improve.
as you claimed. dont stoop to outright lies to justify your own stupidity.
most people with shred of understanding know that he needs to lift his output, they just know that not many players have much better stats so early in their career, nor do they expect them to do so.
While there are some players who had stats that you would find acceptable in their first year of AFL, they are the exception rather than the rule
LOL i talk crap sheesh pot kettle and all that.
We get nothing but crap from you why people bother has me beat. Im not sure what is so hard to understand he was drafted in 2012 That means he has been in an AFL SYSTEM FOR THREE YEARS, Eff me drunk a 10 yr old can understand.
Of course i continue to say he needs to get more ball it is an area that is not up to afl level. Yes as a mid i expect him to find more ball. FMD hang draw and quarter me for saying it.
So he has done no developing at richmond other than this year how effing dumb is that comment. So we dont DEVELOP players in the magoos. Thats what you are saying lol. Isnt everyone saying the ideal is to develop them in the twos and when they get a senior game they are ready to go. Seems not.
Oh he needs to improve his output well hello contrary to what you think it is exactly what i said,
What was your question ah yeah, HOW MANY PLAYERS MANAGE MORE THAN 15 DISPOSALS IN THEIR FIRST 20 GAMES.Conveniently moving the criteria to suit your argument.
My reply went, 21 YR OLDS PLAYING ON A WING IN THEIR THIRD AFL SEASON WHO ARE PHYSICALLY NEAR THEIR PEAK. MOST I WOULD SAY. Now if you want to disprove that observation i suggest you look things up for yourself. Heres a starting point for you. At our club alone all of conca, ellis, cotchin, grigg martin, houli, deledio could even throw Miles in there.
. All i have said is for a 21 yr old who played 23 games in a row and has had three yrs in the system, is that clear enough for you, an ave of 15 disposals a game is not good enough i for one expect more and hope most others do as well. You well i think you enjoy wallowing in mediocrity
It really is simple he either has areas to improve upon or he doesnt. If he has areas that need to be better it goes without saying that some areas are not up to scratch.
