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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #390 on: May 29, 2016, 12:18:31 PM »
Sometimes.
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #391 on: May 29, 2016, 12:44:09 PM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #392 on: May 29, 2016, 02:01:25 PM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink
Didn't he actually mean his criticisms were regarding the way he ties his boots as a captain?

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #393 on: May 29, 2016, 03:43:17 PM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink

Why? And another cheapshot I see. Can't help yourself can you  :wallywink

He had less possessions last than the week before but his game was just as good. Thought  he was excellent again last night. Backed up a great captains game with another one

Which actually highlights my point from the week before that you clearly didn't or perhaps refuse to acknowledge and that was his game last week wasn't great just because he had 39 possessions it was the influence he had on those around him which was happened again last night.

Get it? He had less possessions but just as much influence as a leader, as i said great game.

So go ahead, take a few more cheap sgots from the cheap seats while i go and tie my shoe laces  :wallywink
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #394 on: May 29, 2016, 03:44:55 PM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink
Didn't he actually mean his criticisms were regarding the way he ties his boots as a captain?

Wp reckons chimp is Sposed to do enough leadership

To magically make Hampson grigg Chaplin Morris and co stop being hacks come elimination finals

Come on Cotchin
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #395 on: May 29, 2016, 03:52:02 PM »
Would've won by more if Deledio was captain....
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #396 on: May 29, 2016, 04:02:44 PM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink

Why? And another cheapshot I see. Can't help yourself can you  :wallywink

He had less possessions last than the week before but his game was just as good. Thought  he was excellent again last night. Backed up a great captains game with another one

Which actually highlights my point from the week before that you clearly didn't or perhaps refuse to acknowledge and that was his game last week wasn't great just because he had 39 possessions it was the influence he had on those around him which was happened again last night.

Get it? He had less possessions but just as much influence as a leader, as i said great game.

So go ahead, take a few more cheap sgots from the cheap seats while i go and tie my shoe laces  :wallywink
WP with respect that's not true. You're point was that Cotchins incredible game last night needs to be the "norm". That's what I think we're rolling our eyes at. He was excellent last week, very good last week (regarding his indivdual game at least). But to expect a dominant performance of that standard every week seems ridiculous.

Or are we talking about captaincy qualifiers that none of us can quantify?

Funny Jack for memory you've been critical of him being captain over time  :huh3

Thought he was very good last evening but that must be yhe norm and sadly it isnt always

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #397 on: May 29, 2016, 07:36:36 PM »

WP with respect that's not true. You're point was that Cotchins incredible game last night needs to be the "norm". That's what I think we're rolling our eyes at. He was excellent last week, very good last week (regarding his indivdual game at least). But to expect a dominant performance of that standard every week seems ridiculous.

Or are we talking about captaincy qualifiers that none of us can quantify?

Funny Jack for memory you've been critical of him being captain over time  :huh3

Thought he was very good last evening but that must be yhe norm and sadly it isnt always

With respect

Is this thread about his captaincy or how many possessions he gets?

I made it very very clear that my comments last week were about leadership not the number of possessions he got.

I thought his game last week was excellent not because he had 39 possessions but how he went about getting them, how he led. I said it needs to be the norm, not the number of possesssions but the example he set, how he got the possessions.

Seriously which part of that havent i made clear enough?

 You and others continue to focus on the number of posessions. IMHESHO being a leader involves more than how many kicks and handballs. If you dont think so then great but sorry i do

For an example Suggest people have a look at a small passage of play from last weeks game on the outer wing in the 3rd or 4th qtr where he got to 3 contest, it was fantastic, didnt register sny possession but what an example to his team mates. Thats the stuff i was talkng about.

Thats what i think should be the norm, not getting 30+ possesssions every week. Because I  don't think anyone can do that. But setting the example, getting to the contest rather waiting for the cheapies out the back,  he can do that every week and yeah that should be the norm because we he does that we win more than we lose

He repeated it this week and i am rapt. It was great to see. 
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #398 on: May 29, 2016, 07:48:28 PM »
The helmet has given him more confidence to go in and get the hard ball.

Maybe they should give them out to few of his team mates....... :whistle
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #399 on: May 29, 2016, 10:26:46 PM »
He's a star. Posters got their knickers tied up with their ego.
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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #400 on: May 29, 2016, 11:15:02 PM »
Our better performances has coincided with Astbury being dropped and Chaplin moving back to a permanent fixture of our backline. Woah
Too many changes to really know. Martin playing inside mid, Vlastuin as an extra big bodied mid, Miles playing without injury....the list goes on.

Yep, exactly what I was alluding to. Funny that he's come back in and we aren't losing again? But lets keep that between you and me :shh

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #401 on: May 29, 2016, 11:19:32 PM »
Why? And another cheapshot I see. Can't help yourself can you  :wallywink

He had less possessions last than the week before but his game was just as good. Thought  he was excellent again last night. Backed up a great captains game with another one

Which actually highlights my point from the week before that you clearly didn't or perhaps refuse to acknowledge and that was his game last week wasn't great just because he had 39 possessions it was the influence he had on those around him which was happened again last night.

Get it? He had less possessions but just as much influence as a leader, as i said great game.

So go ahead, take a few more cheap sgots from the cheap seats while i go and tie my shoe laces  :wallywink
WP with respect that's not true. You're point was that Cotchins incredible game last night needs to be the "norm". That's what I think we're rolling our eyes at. He was excellent last week, very good last week (regarding his indivdual game at least). But to expect a dominant performance of that standard every week seems ridiculous.

Or are we talking about captaincy qualifiers that none of us can quantify?

Funny Jack for memory you've been critical of him being captain over time  :huh3

Thought he was very good last evening but that must be yhe norm and sadly it isnt always

Come on Dougey surely you aren't that ignorant to not even register what WP has being saying? He's made it abundantly clear it wasn't about the possessions. FMD if you didn't get it by then you aren't going to get it now.

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #402 on: May 30, 2016, 01:28:28 AM »
Making a lot of posters look really foolish
WP for one.
But I'm sure he will have something really intelligent to say.  :wallywink

Why? And another cheapshot I see. Can't help yourself can you  :wallywink

He had less possessions last than the week before but his game was just as good. Thought  he was excellent again last night. Backed up a great captains game with another one

Which actually highlights my point from the week before that you clearly didn't or perhaps refuse to acknowledge and that was his game last week wasn't great just because he had 39 possessions it was the influence he had on those around him which was happened again last night.

Get it? He had less possessions but just as much influence as a leader, as i said great game.

So go ahead, take a few more cheap sgots from the cheap seats while i go and tie my shoe laces  :wallywink
Hardly a cheap shot.
I think in this thread you are talking crap and the more you talk the smellier it gets.
Try owning what you said and stop trying to twist it so you don't look stupid.
How can you possibly say the 39 touches of the footy last week weren't the reason he played an excellent game. The other stuff you are talking about he does every week, the difference is he doesn't always get 39 and we don't always win. The only thing that is different in those occasions is your thinking.
I don't think his hardness at the footy or his effort can ever be questioned, ever. Not in the entire time he has been at the club.
That's what leadership is, leading from the front. He may not always be BOG and he may miss a goal here and there. But effort and hardness can never be questioned.
Is there any other player at our club that is as hard at the contest and gives a better effort than Cotch?... Maybe Rance would be his equal but that is it.
Anyway it seems you and I are miles apart on this one and I'm sure you'll be the first to jump on him when we lose the next close game.

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #403 on: May 30, 2016, 06:02:23 AM »
Why? And another cheapshot I see. Can't help yourself can you  :wallywink

He had less possessions last than the week before but his game was just as good. Thought  he was excellent again last night. Backed up a great captains game with another one

Which actually highlights my point from the week before that you clearly didn't or perhaps refuse to acknowledge and that was his game last week wasn't great just because he had 39 possessions it was the influence he had on those around him which was happened again last night.

Get it? He had less possessions but just as much influence as a leader, as i said great game.

So go ahead, take a few more cheap sgots from the cheap seats while i go and tie my shoe laces  :wallywink
WP with respect that's not true. You're point was that Cotchins incredible game last night needs to be the "norm". That's what I think we're rolling our eyes at. He was excellent last week, very good last week (regarding his indivdual game at least). But to expect a dominant performance of that standard every week seems ridiculous.

Or are we talking about captaincy qualifiers that none of us can quantify?

Funny Jack for memory you've been critical of him being captain over time  :huh3

Thought he was very good last evening but that must be yhe norm and sadly it isnt always

Come on Dougey surely you aren't that ignorant to not even register what WP has being saying? He's made it abundantly clear it wasn't about the possessions. FMD if you didn't get it by then you aren't going to get it now.

Hmm, well if you read that post then you'll note I made sure to point out that it WASN'T regarding possessions with my last line.

But if its NOT about possessions, then his game v North was acceptable? (6 of his 9 were contested from memory).

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Re: Cotchin must relinquish the Captaincy.
« Reply #404 on: May 30, 2016, 09:51:26 AM »
It's only about possessions when he's tagged, with an injury, against a half rested team  eh Wp?

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