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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2013, 11:19:16 PM »
there's a big difference between so called assault weapons and semi automatics.

most assault or military weapons are automatic, that is you just hold the trigger and it keeps firing. the  difference between  an automatic weapon, which is designed to kill as many people as possible in a short time and a semi auto is huge, while the difference between a semi auto and a manual repeater is minimal.

There is no real reason for people to have military weapons, they don't serve any purpose other than discharging a large number of projectilse in a short time, something which can only have one purpose.

In saying that, the banning of them still will not address the real problem, and that is what causes people to flip out and want to kill as many people as possible. But as usual no one seems to want truly solve the problem, but take the easy, simplistic PC approach and seem to be doing something so as to keep the narrow minded masses happy.
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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2013, 12:06:15 AM »
You're not going to prevent people flipping out though. Our understanding of how the brain fully works is extremely limited and there's no known cure for any mental illness. At least trying to limit people having (easy) access to these sort of weapons when they do "flip out" can save the lives of innocent others even if we can't stop the person harming themself. Sure it can be argued that it's a simplistic notion but it's pragmatic as well and something that can be enacted straight away. 


Btw these pro-gun lobbyists in America aren't far away from the cuckoo nest either. The paranoia about the Government is just crazy.
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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2013, 12:04:03 PM »
some of those pro gun lobbyists built the cuckoo nest.

but what we are talking about here is just a bandaid solution.

no we will never stop people from flipping out, but perhaps putting a bit of effort into understanding why it happens so we can reduce it and managing those that are are prone to it (including restricting their access to any kind of gun, which is the case in this country), will ultimately be better in the long term than band aid solutions.

50 years ago these massacres were rare, now we seem to get a couple per year. So what has changed? that is where you start looking for answers.

The problem is that so called intelligent people in our society, who tend to be the decision makers and influential lobbyists, have only learned to answer questions, questions thought up by similar types and they are taught how to answer those questions.

solutions are found by asking the right questions first, and not enough of this happens

as Claude Levi-Strauss said;
"The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions."

Albert Einstein pretty much summed it up with;
"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education"

and as to why humans rather bandaid solutions rather than real ones,

"People love chopping wood. In this activity one immediately sees results"
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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2013, 12:35:42 PM »

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2013, 12:44:46 PM »
i hate chopping wood

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2013, 12:55:27 PM »
After much thought i have concluded the following.

Who gives a stuff.
Let them kill themselves.
They kill everyone else so it makes sense that they kill themselves too.

Our main concern as the rest of the world should be getting them to keep their stuffing noses out of OURS and everyone else's COUNTRIES AND BUSINESS.

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2013, 12:57:18 PM »
Give them more guns and take away their passports.
Should be sorted in 100 years

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2013, 11:37:54 AM »
Another one in new Mexico.

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2013, 09:13:56 PM »
Another one in new Mexico.

I thought it was Texas?

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2013, 09:26:01 PM »
Another one in new Mexico.

I thought it was Texas?

I heard there was one in Albuquerque? If that's the one Bents is talking about then that's New Mexico.
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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2013, 10:45:59 PM »
apparently the bloke who shot up the cinema showing the batman movie told his psych that he had fantasies of killing lots of people, and she rejected offers by the cops to have him locked up for assessment after she voiced her concerns to them.  :huh

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2013, 11:30:51 PM »
Another one in new Mexico.

I thought it was Texas?

I heard there was one in Albuquerque? If that's the one Bents is talking about then that's New Mexico.

Probably right

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2013, 11:55:13 PM »
what did they think was gonna happen?

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2013, 03:56:17 PM »
Marion Hammer is a fking nutbag.

“”anning people and things because of the way they look went out a long time ago. But here they are again. The color of a gun. The way it looks. It’s just bad politics.”

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Re: Americans and their guns
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2013, 04:00:16 PM »
Talking about the colour of a gun it would be good if they stopped with the pink barrelled guns in their department stores