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Offline Mr Magic

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #120 on: February 07, 2013, 12:09:58 AM »
Haven't seen that one the past few days much. ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #121 on: February 07, 2013, 12:21:59 AM »
apparently there were 2 forms that players signed.
taken across the road to a sterile enviroment please.

wheres the real coach in all this, step up Mark thompson.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #122 on: February 07, 2013, 12:57:32 AM »
...James Hird had looked you in the eye, shook your hand and assured you that your son was joining a great football club...

Well that's probably their own damn fault for believing Essendon is a great club.  :whistle

It's also the same James Hird who said he wasn't going to take over from Knights.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #123 on: February 07, 2013, 02:48:37 AM »
Mark Thompson is the catalyst.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #124 on: February 07, 2013, 03:25:22 AM »
pee off McVeigh you worthless hack. You have a membership to the "poo players who somehow got to 200 games club". Bloody gimp. Reimo is a legend
Can't agree with you Coach.
McVeigh was a very good player for them IMO and had leadership qualities.
Reimers is the type that fist pumps and does somersaults when he kicks a bag against GC when his team is already 100 points in front... Those sort gives me poos. ie Betts

He was an average at best player. Daniel Jackson is better than him. Reimo kicked more goals against GC than McVeigh gets disposals :lol

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2013, 03:38:20 AM »
THE man at the centre of the Essendon drugs scandal, Stephen Dank, claims the injections he gave players last year were clean.

Read more:http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sports-scientist-at-centre-of-essendon-drugs-probe-stephen-dank-claims-jabs-were-clean/story-fnelctok-1226572105326


STEPHEN Dank, the man at the centre of the Essendon drugs investigation, was ''very concerned'' about the testosterone and growth hormone levels of his players when he approached a Melbourne doctor for advice last year.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dank-worry-on-players-blood-results-20130206-2dyet.html#ixzz2K8axoMYs


SOME Essendon players were forced to continue taking injections against their will last season - despite voicing mid-year objections.

As the probe into Essendon's controversial supplements practices deepened yesterday, it emerged a group of players was told it was club policy to continue the "experimental" practice despite complaints.

Sources said players known to be deeply troubled by the injections were told they would continue as it was a team strategy.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-players-forced-to-take-injections-against-their-will/story-fnelctok-1226572134797

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2013, 07:22:53 AM »
Mark McVeigh complete imbecile .
stated that Riemers didnt turn up for pre season
Well, how did he get a game Mark and was kept on the list for many years,please Mark
Also Injected Vit C ,
Nurse rang up 5 mins later and said,you dont inject Vit C, its taken orally

Really Jack if you are going to pot shots listen to the interview and what was said

He said Reimers didn't turn up ready for pre-season; condition wise

And you certainly can be given vitamin supplements via injection - Ma Powell had them to treat an iron deficiency

Further to my above post

from today's Age:


McVeigh added: ''Kyle Reimers has come out and said some things that are untrue. He is a disgruntled player, was delisted from the football club, very rarely turned up for pre-season training in any sort of form that resembled a professional footballer

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mcveigh-blasts-drugs-claims-20130206-2dyww.html#ixzz2K9VcPYN3

So as I said McVeigh never said he didn't turn up to pre-season traingin as you cstate Jack, he said he didnt turn up in the correct condition = massive difference

No defending McVeigh but as I said if you are going to take pot shots get the ammo for your pot shots right
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2013, 07:24:42 AM »
Wouldn't be surprised if Hird was in the dark and it was largly Bomber and friends behind it. Don't like to quote the bin rat, but he said Hird and Thompson often clashed last year and Thompson is the most influential person at the club.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2013, 09:07:51 AM »
Investigation not expected to conclude until around April

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2013, 11:01:03 AM »
''He [Dank] was talking about all the supplements they were taking. By the way, none of them were illegal. He was talking about bovine colostrum and amino acids and various combinations to make protein shakes, all that sort of stuff.''

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dank-worry-on-players-blood-results-20130206-2dyet.html

But bovine colostrum contains a growth factor called IGF-1, which is on the banned substances list

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2013, 11:03:42 AM »
Anyone catch that conference from Canberra then? By the crime commissioner and other big federal wigs. Essendon could have been investigated earlier and now been found out. Is it just coincidence or impeccable timing of that conference today?

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2013, 11:12:37 AM »
Anyone catch that conference from Canberra then? By the crime commissioner and other big federal wigs. Essendon could have been investigated earlier and now been found out. Is it just coincidence or impeccable timing of that conference today?
I started another thread about it dwaino as the press conference covered all Aussie Sport rather than just Essendon. Massive news and not good news for Essendon according to Jon Ralph on SEN. 

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2013, 11:26:59 AM »
SHANE Charter - the convicted drug trafficker who may have supplied former Essendon sports scientist Steve Dank with supplements at the centre of footy's doping probe - has links to Bombers coach James Hird.

The Herald Sun can reveal Hird and Charter worked together for 12 months on his diet and fitness during the champion’s premiership and Brownlow Medal-winning career.

Charter was also hailed as “the architect” behind Demon Shane Woewodin’s 2000 Brownlow Medal win.

An Essendon spokesman told the Herald Sun today: “Shane Charter was introduced to James Hird by friends to give dietary advice to him and a number of his friends during 2003 and in early 2004.

"James has had no contact or communication with Mr Charter since, except when he ran into him in 2011.

“The relationship was never more than that.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/essendon-coach-james-hird-linked-to-convicted-drug-trafficker-shane-charter/story-e6frf9jf-1226572461168

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2013, 11:28:30 AM »
Anyone catch that conference from Canberra then? By the crime commissioner and other big federal wigs. Essendon could have been investigated earlier and now been found out. Is it just coincidence or impeccable timing of that conference today?
I started another thread about it dwaino as the press conference covered all Aussie Sport rather than just Essendon. Massive news and not good news for Essendon according to Jon Ralph on SEN.

Yeah I know it was about Aussie sport in general, but the timing is certainly suspect  :thumbsup

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2013, 12:07:36 PM »
http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/organised-crime-and-drugs-in-sports-feb2013.pdf

17
AUSTRALIAN CRIME COMMISSION - ORGANISED CRIME AND DRUGS IN SPORT
PEPTIDE AND
HORMONE CONSUMERS
A diverse group of individuals has been identified as users of peptides and hormones.
However, users can be categorised into three main groups:
• elite and sub-elite athletes
• bodybuilders
• anti-ageing clinic clients.
The ACC has also identified the administration of peptides and hormones to
thoroughbred racehorses, which is a breach of the Rules of Racing.
Elite Athletes 15
Widespread use of peptides has been identified, or is suspected by the ACC, in a number
of professional sporting codes in Australia. Although the use of peptides appears to be
more widespread in some major codes, individuals from a number of other sports are also
suspected of using peptides.
Multiple players (in one code) from a number of clubs are suspected of currently using or
having previously used peptides, which could constitute an anti-doping rule violation.16
Some players have also been identified as sourcing peptides for personal use. An instance
of team-based doping, orchestrated by some club officials and coaching staff, has also been
identified.
Apart from the peptide’s anabolic effects, it has been found that injured elite athletes,
particularly players from one sporting code, have been using peptides to assist in
rehabilitating soft tissue injuries.
While the level of suspected use of peptides varies between sporting codes, officials
from one club have been identified as administering, via injections and intravenous drips,
a variety of substances, possibly including peptides. Moreover, the substances were
administered at levels which were possibly in breach of WADA anti-doping rules. This
activity was orchestrated by some club officials and the club’s high performance unit.
While intelligence confirms the use of peptides in major sporting codes, it further suggests
that individuals in a range of other codes may also be using peptides.