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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1335 on: August 08, 2013, 06:59:28 PM »
really

why would bradshaw or brown take drugs  ::)

you dont have to say sorry wp, i forgive you.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1336 on: August 08, 2013, 08:01:52 PM »
Bet fair don spoon  :shh

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1337 on: August 08, 2013, 10:12:25 PM »
Q. What's the collective noun for a group of drug cheats?

A. A Hird ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1338 on: August 08, 2013, 10:28:30 PM »
Adof Hirdler  :bow

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1339 on: August 08, 2013, 10:30:15 PM »
Was just reading the story about Essendon erecting a temporary fence at Windy Hill.
I can see some problems.

The Windy Hill carpark is a council reserve. Therefore under City of Moonee Valley Local Law 9.1 (e), Essendon must apply for a permit to erect a temporary structure on a council reserve. In the Age video, I didn't see any visible signs of a permit being displayed.
Penalty:  Twenty (20) penalty units 
 
If they have not obtained a permit, they are in trouble because they have also breached LL 39 which is the requirement to give the council 7 days notice that building works are to commence.
Penalty:  Twenty (20) penalty units
 
Also, if there is no permit, they are breaching Local Law 44.1(b) which is leaving obstructions on public land that impedes public access.
Penalty:  Twenty (20) penalty units

It also looks like there are problems with the Australian Standards for Temporary Fencing.
I can see issues with site safety; base plate installation is on uneven ground, and I doubt that fencing would pass a wind test. Someone should tell Workcover.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1340 on: August 08, 2013, 10:31:42 PM »
Q. What's the collective noun for a group of drug cheats?

A. A Hird ;D

Yeesssssss  :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1341 on: August 08, 2013, 11:19:47 PM »
Barrett on the Footy Show:

* Essendon decision - early next week.

* Finnis has told the Essendon players he can offer no guarantees.

* John Fahey (head of WADA) - happy with ASADA going down the interim report path even if it's not the usual path. Said this could drag on for months. Essendon will have two weeks to respond under the natural justice clause.

 

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« Reply #1342 on: August 08, 2013, 11:23:33 PM »
Natural justice

 Almost like a term a human rights lawyer would use  :thumbsup

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1343 on: August 08, 2013, 11:26:21 PM »
Essendon drugs probe: AFLPA's fury at Bombers

    Caroline Wilson
    The Age
    August 9, 2013



The AFL Players Association on Thursday left Essendon's senior list in no doubt as to their grave disappointment in senior football staffers it believes failed its players.

While union chief Matt Finnis stopped short of threatening separate legal action at this stage against the club, he added "he had not closed the door" on that option.

Those staffers are understood to include football operations boss Danny Corcoran and coach James Hird, although the AFLPA was careful not to name names at Thursday's address to the players.

Fairfax Media has learnt that several Bombers players were left sobered by the meeting at the club with Finnis and his legal team.

The players' union's lawyer Brett Murphy and long-time legal adviser Bernie Shinners pointed out to the Essendon senior list that key senior personnel who helped oversee the "invidious" injecting regime had not all left the club.

It also emerged on Thursday that the AFL and ASADA were continuing to delve into the varying versions of events given in evidence by former high-performance boss Dean Robinson compared with those given by Hird and Corcoran.

AFL investigator Abraham Haddad, along with ASADA officials, on Thursday spent more than four hours with Robinson seeking context to some of the thousands of text messages he provided in evidence. It is not known whether Hird has agreed to provide all his telephone records dating back to late 2011, when Robinson and Stephen Dank joined the club.

Both ASADA and the AFL are still attempting to get to the truth of Robinson's claim that Hird spoke to him from overseas about a meeting with a New York doctor and a testosterone cream he recommended. Hird's evidence is understood to include an admission he spoke with a New York-based pharmacist regarding a cream that was never used by the Bombers.

The joint investigators were also told in evidence that Corcoran knew Dank was being investigated by ASADA when he joined the club. It is not known whether Corcoran has corroborated that claim.

It is also understood that no assistant coaches or staffers testified they had seen Hird injected by Dank, with Robinson claiming last week on Channel Seven that he had seen Hird injected only once. Hird's camp has claimed he was injected twice by Dank.

Finnis confirmed on Thursday night he had told the Essendon players there were ''no guarantees'' they would not receive infraction notices despite Essendon chairman Paul Little indicating in a letter to members on Wednesday that he remained ''confident'' his players had not taken performance-enhancing drugs. Little will address the player again on Friday.

''The report is interim but it is incredibly concerning,'' said Finnis, ''and paints a poor picture of the workplace these guys were working in and we don't think any players should be put in that position.

''We've told them [the players] there are no guarantees. It is an interim report - really a compilation of all the evidence and we've said they should not seek to be more optimistic as a result or more dour.''

The AFLPA chief, whose lawyers received the ASADA summary on Wednesday night, refused to divulge details of the conversation his legal team held with the Essendon footballers but confirmed he remained hopeful but not assured the players would escape sanctions.

AFL chief Andrew Demetriou continued to deny suggestions that his team had already set the wheels in motion to remove points and draft picks and also denied reports that the commission had scheduled a special meeting on Monday.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-drugs-probe-aflpas-fury-at-bombers-20130808-2rksp.html#ixzz2bNr5ebSc

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1344 on: August 09, 2013, 12:42:08 AM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1345 on: August 09, 2013, 12:42:41 AM »
Q. What's the collective noun for a group of drug cheats?

A. A Hird ;D

Yeesssssss  :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1346 on: August 09, 2013, 01:28:31 AM »
The chief football writer of the hun has just tweeted

"Meeting at windy hill Armageddon looming"

 https://mobile.twitter.com/Robbo_heraldsun

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 Mark Robinson ‏@Robbo_heraldsun 1h
meeting at windy hill tonight.  Armageddon looming...
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 FOX FOOTY LIVE ‏@FOXFootyLive 7 Aug
Bombers set for fight as charges loom http://j.mp/14jtXxT  #afl
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 Grant Payne ‏@payney73 7 Aug
@Robbo_heraldsun But still nothing from Demetriou about beer prices at AFL venues after US fact finding mission.
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 Justin Rodski ‏@justinrodski 7 Aug
Reports @Essendon_FC coach James Hird will stand down are NOT true - I repeat, James Hird is not standing down
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1347 on: August 09, 2013, 04:25:07 AM »
Essendon players' long-term health to be monitored ...

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/players-longterm-health-to-be-monitored-20130808-2rkyb.html

Supplements used by Essendon players may have come to the attention of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority before this year's investigation was launched, even though no player tested positive to any banned substances.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/test-forms-may-have-raised-issue-20130808-2rksr.html#ixzz2bP4Y4TBT

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1348 on: August 09, 2013, 04:26:34 AM »
The chief football writer of the hun has just tweeted

"Meeting at windy hill Armageddon looming"

 https://mobile.twitter.com/Robbo_heraldsun
The meeting to occur at 12.10pm according to Robbo.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1349 on: August 09, 2013, 06:51:35 AM »
Another day, another WHACK from Caro   :clapping :clapping

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