Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS

[Francois Jackson]

Be patient Daniel son

I don't see can wada can allow drug cheating

Bents I'm not a patient individual, comes from my old nonno, but this is peeing me off.

They have said no infraction notices to players.

Now I can see why the turd and that are so smug cause there is no evidence of doping violations it seems, just governance issues

[Judge Roughneck]

I am also disillusioned with the fiasco

However its just the intern report...

Expect drugs charges player bans to follow.

[🏅Dooks]

Well im confused...

"objection your honour, all personell at our club was either  totally high or completely  munted - we didnt know what we were doing. "

"Sustained. The witness and relevant party were clearly of their heads. Now everybody forget about this. Did I mention Daddy owns a Porsche? 

[Judge Roughneck]

So they are playing finals?

Unbelievable

[Judge Roughneck]

Well im confused...

"objection your honour, all personell at our club was either  totally high or completely  munted - we didnt know what we were doing. "

"Sustained. The witness and relevant party were clearly of their heads. Now everybody forget about this. Did I mention Daddy owns a Porsche?

Grubby
Corruption
 Secret meetings

Dodgy as feck.

[Yeahright]

Lawyers stepped in?

Lawyers have been involved since the AFL & EFC got a copy of the report

Yes but the news said something about them stepping in today. I just caught the end of it so I don't know exactly what they said

[Yeahright]

WP can you have too many sponsors?

True but...

We have Jeep who've been fantastic. Bombers have Kia. You want to poach Kia then we lose Jeep - cant have both. Also, both our majors are contacted for 2014.

We've just signed Metro Solar, Bombers have that other mob can't think of their name  we cannot bring in a direct competitor against one of our current sponsors.

Again KooGa are contracted for next year so Adidas isn't an option.

Toll sponsor the bombers they aren't going to desert the EFC seeing their newest chairman is the former owner of Toll

Happy to try and get new sponsors but we cannot/should not do it at the expense of our current partners

What if they give us more money

[🏅Dooks]

In all seriousness, may I ask each and every forum member the following question:-

if Essendon have done nothing wrong, why would Hird and co be claiming to be feeling to be feeling the pRessure after a tough year?

I quote one G M Michael:-

I'm never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know your not a fool

Should've known better than to cheat a friend
And waste the chance that I've been given
So I'm never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you

[Francois Jackson]

Reading between the lines I think WADA have deemed it banned but ASADA have stuffed up here and told the cheats something different.

How else can there be no infraction notices.

Bents it won't come. The players will get off Scott free due to some loophole created by those fools at ASADA.

This is SKATA

[Judge Roughneck]

The report is not finished...

Infraction notices should come

Can't get off the tbeta4 drugs

Aod is only one drug they used...

Tiger71 said: ↑ bfooty
The interim report was used like I mentioned multiple times. Just formers like robbo and some here dont get that there are two investigations going side by side. The afl needed the interim report to back up the ziggy report so they could charge the incompetent cabal lead by hird.

Now that's out of the way the ASADA report can take all the time it needs to play out

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[Francois Jackson]

I want WP to call his mate Chuck or whatever his contacts name is and tell us what those 25 points the cheats have been charged with.

[Judge Roughneck]

Skata indeed

[WilliamPowell]

So they are playing finals?

Unbelievable

Which bit of this don't you understand bent?

Hearing scheduled to be held on Monday 26 August at AFL House.

No penalties were going to be handed out today.

they get charged and have 14 days to put together a defence and they face a hearing, no great surprise. Between now and then they will try an negotiate a penalty just like Melb & Adel did. Don't come up with something and they face a hearing and they are risk points, fines, draft pick loss and suspension of the great one

This is rubbish.

Wada have admitted its a banned substance, however the players aren't going to be served with infraction notices.

I don't think they will lose points now.

This is utter rubbish this is.

Daniel, there are 2 very separate issues here.

First one is the behaviour of the EFC, their program which is what the AFL charges relate to. Very separate to the players and what they took
 
As bents said the current ASADA report is an interim report. As I mentioned earlier today ASADA now have new powers since Aug 2. This mean they can force anyone to be interviewed eg everyone's favourite sprots scienctist S Dank. ASADA are still investigating and trying to determine who took what. Can't issue an infraction notice to someone if you don't have concrete proof of what they took. From what has been reported the interim report ASADA have confirmed that banned substances were adminsitered but because the EFC haven't kept proper records ASADA has been able to establuish who took what.

Yes Jobe Watson said believed he took ADO-6904 or whatever it is called but the key word here is "believed" because that's what was on the consent form. Jobe knows he took sometihng but he isn't sure what it was and either is Essendon.

So while the ASADA investigation is still on going the players aren't going to be served YET.

Let ASADA do their job with WADA looking over their shoulder and let that take its course. Far better for them to keep digging and get it right than serve an infraction notcie now based on an incomplete invesitgation and let the players off when they appeal to the Int'l sports arbitration board 

And let's just let the AFL process take it's course and see what happens - a whacking is coming. Whether it be for season 2013 or perhaps 2014

Going ot get very interesting indeed 

[Judge Roughneck]

I was eating dinner thanknu very much wp

8pm: Head of WADA John Fahey has spoken to AFL.com.au's Nathan Schmook. On the possibility of Essendon players receiving infraction notices, he said:
"I think there's some distinct chance in the end that might happen, but they (ASADA) have to dot their Is and cross their Ts.
"These things just simply take time. I can't tell you how long it will take.
"The sad thing about it, as all of us who love sport saw, this thing had the cart before the horse.
"You only know there's a problem when ultimately charges are laid or enquiries are concluded and a statement is issued."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-13/live-coverage-dons-supplements-scandal

Keep the faith Daniel son

[WilliamPowell]

I want WP to call his mate Chuck or whatever his contacts name is and tell us what those 25 points the cheats have been charged with.

the mate's name is Chutney and Chutney cannot help with that sort of detail