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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1770 on: August 22, 2013, 03:08:27 PM »
Yep, and the highest court they can go to appeal is CAS in Switzerland where WADA has a 100% winning record because they basically run the court  ;D

Similar to the AFL Commission upholding whatever the AFL want  ;D

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1771 on: August 22, 2013, 03:11:03 PM »
As for Hirdy...


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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1772 on: August 22, 2013, 03:11:19 PM »

Yes players signed consent forms that listed what they would be given and therefore agreeing to take substances. However because of what appears to be the EFC's incompetance in record keeping no records exist as to who was given what. The consent form may soay  one thing but blokes could have been given some thing completely different. In a marcabre sort of way Essendons incompetance may have in fact helped the players.

Reckon them signing those forms should be enough and Essendon should have to prove that they didn't take them, but I guess it just doesn't work that way  :(

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1773 on: August 22, 2013, 03:33:10 PM »
And Caro (again) goes whack (subtly)  :bow
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Tim Watson's epic fail as voice of Bomber parents
DateAugust 22, 2013 - 3:04PM 
Caroline Wilson
Chief Football Writer for The Age

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"Sarah", the emotional talkback radio caller and Essendon player parent who described the invidious position in which some of that club's footballers still find themselves, has painted an alternative picture to the one portrayed all season by the Bombers' most high-profile parent, Tim Watson.

Triple M remained certain after the Thursday morning call that "Sarah" was who she claimed to be — a shattered and concerned mother ordered by the club to keep her fears to herself.

With every dramatic hour that has unfolded since the AFL revealed the horrifying charge sheet against Essendon has come growing doubts and worse among the Bombers players and their families. "Sarah" symbolised them all.

Until now only Watson has spoken publicly as a parent, and although he continues to insist he does not see himself as the parents' spokesman, the reality is he has been the only one. When he stepped out of the Tuesday night address to the players' families and virtually declared "nothing to see here", the AFL and the players' union lost patience.

It is one thing to support your old club but quite another to be the face of concerned parents whom the rest of the football community was starting to see were having the wool pulled over their eyes.

Unfortunately for all the other parents Watson is terribly conflicted, as he freely admits, and until now a member of Cult Hird. Like other cult members he sniffed conspiracy at every turn, believing the AFL somehow to be at fault from the start and bought into every new wacky piece of evidence put forward by recruited witnesses — most recently the Essendon medical consultant Andrew Garnham.

Garnham addressed the players' families on Tuesday night while an interview with him was simultaneously broadcast on Fox Footy, a channel overseen by one of coach James Hird's closest friends and devoted followers Rod Law.

For the AFL and the players' union it is one thing to mislead the media and key players such as Dr Bruce Reid with your conspiracy theories but quite another to mislead players and their families.

Unlike others, Watson has refrained from attacking Hird doubters — certainly publicly. And he frequently admitted his conflict. On his SEN breakfast program on Thursday there were even signs that Watson was taken aback the the previous day's events. He agreed for the first time that perhaps Hird should step aside from coaching due to the distraction of fighting to save his reputation.

But Watson, for all the difficulties of his compromised position and for all the hurt he must be feeling for son Jobe, was the wrong person to speak on behalf of the parents — something he did not see himself as doing but something the club asked him to do.

Not only are James Hird, Mark Thompson, Danny Corcoran and Bruce Reid his friends but Watson was also instrumental in the secret plot to place Hird and Thompson back together at the club. And he is the father of the captain, the club's champion and best player who during this season re-signed a lucrative new four-year deal.

He could never hope to represent the psyches of less secure Essendon players. Yes, Jobe Watson stood to lose his Brownlow but never his livelihood or his place in the senior side.

Said one player manager on Thursday: "If those [unsigned or irregular senior] players didn't toe the party line they were frightened they would lose their position or not get another contract.

"The players' parents are still too scared to stand up and say: 'This is unacceptable'. They fear for their sons. What if he goes to work and feels isolated by the group because of what his parents said? What if no one talks to him? They've all been told to say nothing.

"Even when the AFLPA guys spoke to the players there were some in the group who questioned them when they talked about potential penalties. It was like: 'Are you with us or against us?' There were definitely some divisions.

"Things are starting to happen now though. The tide is turning and that happened when the AFL released the charges."

Essendon's institutionalised response to the 2011 and 2012 drugs scandal has reeked of tribalism from the start. The club and its henchmen have frequently and nastily attacked its detractors. The stench of cover-up has pervaded the Bombers all season, ever since it was revealed its players were forced to sign secrecy contracts regarding the drugs program.

But those brainwashed are showing signs of being de-programmed. The players' union boss Matt Finnis will likely receive a more united hearing when he takes the players Essendon allowed to be used as guinea pigs last season through the ASADA interim report, as he has been permitted to do.

Several of the more involved and influential player managers now have the ASADA report.

And Tim Watson? You would have sworn listening to his radio show early on Thursday that he had read the AFL charge sheet against Essendon. And truly taken it all in.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tim-watsons-epic-fail-as-voice-of-bomber-parents-20130822-2sdij.html#ixzz2cfnG1wbS
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1774 on: August 22, 2013, 03:55:35 PM »
HIRD
He Injects Restricted Drugs hahaha

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1775 on: August 22, 2013, 04:24:41 PM »
As for Hirdy...



Wrong finger gerks unless you want to marry him.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1776 on: August 22, 2013, 04:27:37 PM »

Yes players signed consent forms that listed what they would be given and therefore agreeing to take substances. However because of what appears to be the EFC's incompetance in record keeping no records exist as to who was given what. The consent form may soay  one thing but blokes could have been given some thing completely different. In a marcabre sort of way Essendons incompetance may have in fact helped the players.

Reckon them signing those forms should be enough and Essendon should have to prove that they didn't take them, but I guess it just doesn't work that way  :(
i bet it does  :shh

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1777 on: August 22, 2013, 05:25:19 PM »
It should  :shh

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« Reply #1778 on: August 22, 2013, 05:40:44 PM »
It better... >:(

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1779 on: August 22, 2013, 05:42:45 PM »
As for Hirdy...



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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1780 on: August 22, 2013, 05:43:35 PM »
It Will... :clapping

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« Reply #1781 on: August 22, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »
Otherwise it'll go a little something like this  :shh

Wada. What u inject
Efc can't remember / shredded papers
Wada you are innocent
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #1782 on: August 22, 2013, 05:54:50 PM »
Robbo sen
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"The AFL have to give up ground
AFL cannot go to court
AFL must give in to threats"

 :rollin


Vlad must not give up.

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« Reply #1783 on: August 22, 2013, 05:58:57 PM »
Peter Gordon has just come out of the AFL meeting and spoke on behalf of the presidents of the other 17 clubs. They went and listened to the AFL and Essendon (Little) and then the 17 clubs met on their own to discuss the Essendon saga. After consideration, all 17 clubs have decided to unanimously support the AFL and its right to protect the integrity of the competition and the game.

So Essendon is well and truly on its own now.

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« Reply #1784 on: August 22, 2013, 06:08:33 PM »
Robbo sen
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"The AFL have to give up ground
AFL cannot go to court
AFL must give in to threats"

 :rollin


Vlad must not give up.
this is above blobbos pay grade.