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Offline Penelope

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2205 on: September 15, 2013, 03:25:49 PM »
 :lol
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2206 on: September 15, 2013, 10:37:16 PM »
yet you have been a vocal advocate for us to cheat/rort the system
:huh3

I've never advocated cheating/rorting. I never said we should break the rules. I said at the time we should've used the stupid draft rules back then to our advantage (ie. by gaining extra priority picks) once it was clear our season was over and we had no chance of making the finals. Not caring about winning when there's nothing left in the season to play for and playing the kids to prepare for the following year isn't cheating. Most clubs in that situation do it. Yep we should be so devastated we got Cotch and Rance for the next decade when instead we could've won a meaningless round 22 game against St Kilda back in 2007 :lol [ps. not saying we tanked that day but as you saying al the Club cheated/rorted the system because Plough didn't make any moves in the last 10 mins once we grabbed the lead before losing it?]

Cheating/rorting is systematically breaking the salary cap rules as Carlton did; cheating/rorting is systematically using drugs that are outside the WADA code and/or not approved by Therapeutic Goods Administration for human use as Essendon did. Breaking the rules is cheating/rorting.

P-poor attempt at justifiying your postion MT.  Cheating is cheating is cheating is cheating.  We chose not to take the path you advocated and thank f*** we didn't.

Karma is a serious bitch - thats's what I know and that's what I base my life-term observations on.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2207 on: September 15, 2013, 10:41:29 PM »
Is a systematic banned PED injection program equally as 'bad' as tanking or salary cap cheating?

Shoplifting and rape are both crimes. Are they equally bad and should be punished the same?

Do you agree in life there is different severity of wrongs?

If a Palestinian throws a rock is it the same as a Israeli tank shooting?

Yep, nup, yep, nup and get embrace reality, not the the emotion.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2208 on: September 18, 2013, 01:36:57 PM »
AFL have withdrawn all charges against Doc Reid  ;D

no surprise, AFL punished the one that really matters  :rollin
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2209 on: September 19, 2013, 02:09:17 AM »
Is this still going

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2210 on: September 19, 2013, 03:38:22 AM »
Baker and McKenzie deliver once again with their perfect timing of reality whenever Essendon try to protray themselves as victims  ;D.

Heart tests worried Dons

   Richard Baker and Nick McKenzie
     The Age
    September 19, 2013


Ten months after Essendon doctor Bruce Reid wrote to James Hird to express concern about player injections, the club's medical staff again complained in writing of ''picking up the pieces of something that was running out of control''.

The reference to ''picking up the pieces'' was made by Dr Reid's fellow club doctor Brendan De Morton in an October 2012 email to Essendon's then high-performance boss Dean Robinson, after the doctors learnt the football department was considering billing Medicare for nearly 100 heart diagnostic checks on players that cost almost $10,000.

In an episode yet to be made public, internal emails show that Dr Reid - who on Wednesday had charges over his role in Essendon's supplements program withdrawn by the AFL - and Dr De Morton were unaware of the extent of the heart diagnostic checks and believed that billing Medicare would trigger a fraud investigation.

It is believed the heart checks were done in part to meet AFL player health requirements but also to measure the efficacy of the supplements program.

Fairfax Media can also reveal that Sydney doctors Ijaz Khan and Tej Preet Dugal provided sports scientist Stephen Dank with pathology forms that were used to order blood tests on Essendon players they had not personally consulted. Two Sydney diagnostic clinics associated with Dank's Bondi Medical Rejuvenation Clinic and online peptide business provided the blood test results.

Dr Khan is alleged to have injected the WADA-banned drug CJC1295 into NRL player Sandor Earl, an act that has earned the player a 12-month suspension for doping. Dr Khan and Dr Dugal did not return calls.

The emergence of emails showing that Essendon's doctors were not aware of the extent of the heart tests or of the presence at the club of blank pathology forms linked to Sydney doctors raises further questions about the extent to which Dr Reid and Dr De Morton were sidelined from the supplements program.

Both doctors were meant to have far greater input after Dr Reid wrote a scathing letter to Hird and former football manager Paul Hamilton in January last year questioning the ethics and benefits of the supplements program.

The matter of the heart diagnostic checks blew up internally at Essendon in October last year when cardiologist and equine heart specialist Adam Gay sent an invoice for almost $10,000 for 46 electrocardiograms and 44 echocardiograms on players. Dr Gay, who declined to comment, brought a portable device to Windy Hill to do the tests. It is believed Dr Gay had appropriate referrals.

On October 10, Essendon football boss Danny Corcoran emailed Robinson asking if he knew anything about Dr Gay's invoice, saying: ''Danksy [Dank] said there was no cost for this service!!''

Corcoran was alerted to the bill by Essendon list manager Adrian Dodoro in an email that stated: ''Dan don't have a heart attack! Danksy strikes again!!''

Dank has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing at Essendon and at several NRL clubs at which he has worked.

When told of the football department's plan to recover the cost of the heart checks through Medicare, Dr De Morton warned that any attempt to do so would result in an investigation by the Commonwealth health insurer and added that ''we [Bruce and I] need to take control back of these areas''.

''No discussion re any of this occurred prior to the ECGs (Echos) going ahead,'' Dr De Morton wrote in an October 16 email to Robinson.

''I understood there was some 'special arrangement' and both Bruce and I had made it clear to SD [Dank] that this was considered screening and we would be investigated by Medicare if we even considered ordering 46 ECGs (let alone, as it turned out, 44 Echos as well).

''I feel yet again like we are picking up the pieces of something that was running out of control but under the guise of lots of reassurance that everything was taken care of.''

In response, Robinson wrote an email expressing regret at how things had turned out, telling Dr De Morton that he had thought the club would not be billed for the heart checks.

Emails also show Essendon was also billed $15,000 by cosmetic doctor Paul Spano, whose clinic across the road from Windy Hill was used to deliver supplements intravenously to players.

Other emails show the owner of a South Yarra clinic where Essendon footballers were injected with a host of substances, including a mysterious Mexican supplement sourced by a muscular dystrophy patient, was discussing a business venture with the foreign supplier of an anti-dementia drug made from pig's brain extracts that was also given to players.

The Australian Health Practitioners Regulation Agency is examining the actions of up to five doctors associated with Dank after a referral from the Australian Crime Commission. Medicare is also investigating allegations of medical fraud related to the Essendon program. Neither Dr Reid nor Dr De Morton is a subject of either investigation and Fairfax Media does not suggest either has acted improperly.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/heart-tests-worried-dons-20130918-2tzu5.html#ixzz2fGaWeYXs

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2211 on: September 19, 2013, 04:02:28 AM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2212 on: September 19, 2013, 06:06:28 AM »

Here it comes...

ASADA ready with lifetime sport bans 
 
 Jacquelin Magnay | The Australian  |
 September 19, 2013

THE Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority is preparing a slew of infraction notices against Essendon players and club officials that could result in lifetime bans from all sport. Essendon coach James Hird, people and development manager Danny Corcoran, former high-performance manager Dean Robinson and sports scientist Stephen Dank, as well as players involved in the injecting scene, are all in ASADA's sights.

However, club doctor Bruce Reid, who raised questions about the supplements program, is likely to avoid an infraction notice, sources have indicated to The Australian.

Details of ASADA's continued pursuit of Essendon emerged as the AFL yesterday withdrew serious allegations against Dr Reid of bringing the game into disrepute .The development validated a report in The Australian last week that the AFL commission would not proceed with charges against the doctor. -

See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/asada-ready-with-lifetime-sport-bans/story-fnca0u4y-1226722374126#sthash.69v2LU6e.dpuf

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2213 on: September 19, 2013, 08:40:33 AM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2214 on: September 19, 2013, 08:54:26 AM »
I pray that if there is a God, please whack them with your biggest stick.   :pray :pray :pray

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2215 on: September 19, 2013, 09:16:49 AM »
Patience

It's always been about patience  ;D
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2216 on: September 19, 2013, 10:25:21 AM »
EFC flog ringing up SEN

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"ASADA should get a life"

 :rollin :rollin

Burnside telling the ABC if it went to court hird would have won the case

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2218 on: September 19, 2013, 01:25:36 PM »
It's nearly time for that day off work, slab of beer and listening to flogs call up SEN.  :clapping

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #2219 on: September 19, 2013, 01:59:41 PM »
Efc just issued media statement

Lol lol and lol