Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS

[Yeahright]

Just appeal for the fun of it. Essendon dragged it on so why don't ASADA?

[WilliamPowell]

Just appeal for the fun of it. Essendon dragged it on so why don't ASADA?

I would

But I reckon it might be WADA rather than ASADA doing the appealing.

Bombers need to be careful

Players play this weekend, then if an appeal is successful then penalties kick from when they last played

Perfect scenario 

[tdy]

Personally Im stunned and yet not. The AFL had to protect its games and TV rights. Lying is the second laguage of the AFL. So its not surprising no one in footy admin wanted a guilty. Im sure quiet words would have been spoken to various parties and explicit instructions to players. Steven Dank wil be found guilty of some minor charge of bad record keeping and will dissappear into the sunset.

I think they did it and believe they should have got 6 months but the game is more important than the rules.

Blood doping parties all round is my guess now. Great for endurance, impossible to detect unless you catch them in the act. And now we have a verdict that ASADA needs a positive test to get a conviction.

[froars]

I'm preparing myself for the holier than thou Mr Hird saying we told you so.
There is no god, i'm giving up praying.
There is no justice, so i won't bother getting on the anti-Collingwood bandwagon now because what would be the point.
Just another nail in the footy coffin for me

[Francois Jackson]

Just appeal for the fun of it. Essendon dragged it on so why don't ASADA?

I would

But I reckon it might be WADA rather than ASADA doing the appealing.

Bombers need to be careful

Players play this weekend, then if an appeal is successful then penalties kick from when they last played

Perfect scenario 

Asada will decide tomorrow if they are appealing

WP what's the point?

It's done the cheats got off on lack of evidence

Asada. Lol are they a fair dinkum organisation

[froars]

Just appeal for the fun of it. Essendon dragged it on so why don't ASADA?

I would

But I reckon it might be WADA rather than ASADA doing the appealing.

Bombers need to be careful

Players play this weekend, then if an appeal is successful then penalties kick from when they last played

Perfect scenario 

Excellent scenario 

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This entire time they've been brokering deals.

[one-eyed]

I'm preparing myself for the holier than thou Mr Hird saying we told you so.
There is no god, i'm giving up praying.
There is no justice, so i won't bother getting on the anti-Collingwood bandwagon now because what would be the point.
Just another nail in the footy coffin for me

All we got today from Hird was crocodile tears, more denial (the players were cleared James; not the club or yourself) and once again not taking responsibility ("I didn't choose the supplements").


'I'm so sorry', says relieved Essendon coach James Hird

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-31/im-so-sorry-hird

[one-eyed]

Dank also had his say:

While most key figures in the controversy, including Essendon coach James Hird and AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan, say they are keen to move on, Dank remains furious.

"I've understood from the very early days how this thing was stage-managed," he told the Nine Network.

"I think we know the script was written from day one ... by the Australian Football League.

"There are still things that I need to do going forward that I will do and my legal team will do."

But Dank's sharpest barb was saved for ASADA.

"They've been very, very poor in their conduct, execution and understanding of this whole investigation," he said.

"The players never took anything that was illegal or anything that was against the WADA-prohibited list.

"The players were not guilty of anything. I'm very happy for the players."

Dank also revealed a depth of support for coach James Hird, who he said was fully behind the supplements program.

"He showed a lot of faith in the program in 2012, he showed a lot of support, he believed in the program," he said.

"We had a very, very good relationship, never one cross word.

"He showed enormous courage in the back end, particularly in relation to the Federal Court matter.

"It was a shame he never continued through to the High Court.

"I have no doubt that he got an unbelievable amount of pressure put on him by the club in relation to those appeals."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-31/mcdevitt-slams-disgraceful-dons-as-dank-returns-fire

[WilliamPowell]

Asada will decide tomorrow if they are appealing

WP what's the point?

It's done the cheats got off on lack of evidence

Asada. Lol are they a fair dinkum organisation

Because there is a force more powerful and more professional than ASADA and that's WADA

And just as aside, they had Justin Quill (sports lawyer) on 3AW while I was driving home and he was asked about what happens regarding the provisional suspension if there is an appeal. He said that as the players are now deemed "not guilty" then they are allowed to play. If said appeal is successful then any games played wont impact on the penalty that is they don't get recognised as a start date for any penalties.... was extremely disappointed to hear that

But I still hope they appeal.... drag it on for a few months and then see suspension take effect say halfway through the season

[WilliamPowell]

Reckon people's reactions just further highlight why this hearing should have been made public

Unless we know the "whys" & "hows" of how the tribunal reached their decision then a vast majority of footy fans will continue to believe there's been some sort of cover up

I believe we deserve to know why & how

[one-eyed]

Caro doesn't believe ASADA will appeal.

Barrett on Footy Classified had some snippets from the anti-doping tribunal findings:

* The supplement program at Essendon was "deplorable". Deplorable records, deplorable book-keeping, etc ...

* The program began without Doc Reid's knowledge or approval and when he did become aware of it and wanted it stopped, it still continued.

[WilliamPowell]

* The program began without Doc Reid's knowledge or approval and when he did become aware of it and wanted it stopped, it still continued.

All well and good for the Doc but he didn't stop it and stood back al let it continued

If he was so upset by it why did he stay and watch it all unfold?

[Mr Magic]

Deplorable record keeping?
Deplorable isn't exactly the word I'd use..
Obviously they got rid of the evidence & so far as I am concerned Essendon FC cannot clear their name until they provide it.
Therefor the case may be officially closed.. but the stain on that filthy club & it's players will remain forever.
Because of 'confidentiality' and lack of transpareny, Jobe is the face of it. His Brownlow is forever tainted too.
Public perception of the Bombers will always be that they are a cheating club and as others have said this is just another nail in the coffin the AFL competition.
DISGRACE.

[froars]

Reckon people's reactions just further highlight why this hearing should have been made public

Unless we know the "whys" & "hows" of how the tribunal reached their decision then a vast majority of footy fans will continue to believe there's been some sort of cover up

I believe we deserve to know why & how

Should have a jury-type panel with a representative from all clubs on it to deliberate this stuff, not shady jobs like this.