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Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department

By Jennifer Phelan
afl.com.au
3:41pm AEDT Wednesday, February 6, 2013



RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick will "certainly" talk to his sports science staff about their management of his players in the wake of the Essendon supplement scandal.

Hardwick, a former Essendon player and friend of Dons coach James Hird, described the Bombers' plight as a "difficult situation" he hoped would end up being deemed a "mistake". 

In the meantime, he said the Tigers would double check there was no concern within their own sports science processes. 

"We'll certainly have a conversation, there's no doubt. You do put an enormous amount of trust in the medical staff and our guys are outstanding in what they do and what they deliver," Hardwick said on Wednesday, after the Tigers touched down in Alice Springs.

"It will certainly be a conversation we'll have again just make sure we're crossing the T's and dotting the I's."

Richmond rookie and ex-Bomber Sam Lonergan didn't make the trip to Alice Springs for the Tigers' community camp and Friday night's clash with the Indigenous All Stars.

Lonergan had ankle surgery at the end of last season and remains in the rehabilitation group.

Hardwick said he hadn't spoken to Lonergan, who was cut from Essendon last year, but admitted there was some concern about his player getting caught up in the fallout.

"There's always a concern. There's a human element as well and as a fan of football … it's a concern," he said.

"Probably the sooner we find out about this, the better, we can move on and get our game back up to being great again."

Hardwick said the use of sports science in football had grown "enormously" since he retired at the end of 2004.

He said while every team searched for an edge, there were known boundaries.

"There comes a time where there's a platform there you just can't cross," he said.

"Probably at some stage that is going to happen but the reality is, we've got a certain amount of guidelines we abide by and we adhere to those, so it's just something we hope doesn’t become prevalent in our sport."

When asked if it was possible for a coach to be unaware of the sports science department's processes, he said "everyone club is different so it's hard for me to answer that one".

He also said he hoped the situation resolved itself quickly.

"No one likes to see this in our competition and we just hope that it gets better," he said.

"The one things we've got in AFL is great environment as an organisation. The AFL to their credit have fantastic education programs the players are all across and we just hope it's a mistake."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-06/tigers-set-for-sport-science-talks

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 12:14:16 AM »
will clubs be rushing to
release pressers to clear themselves.

pandoras box is about to blown open
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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 01:26:33 PM »
wonder if the club will release a press statement

might be waiting to see where this all leads to.

fingers crossed for the RFC. :thumbsup

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 01:40:04 PM »
Can't see us being immune from this

You only have to look at McG's legs and the fact the Sheddy is a 100 game player to know we are in a bit of strife

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 01:45:21 PM »
Drama queens unite

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All clubs sports science to be audited by AFL: Demetriou
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 06:40:11 PM »
Demetriou just held a press conference. He said the AFL will audit each and every club's sports science department.

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 07:40:15 PM »
"We'll certainly have a conversation, there's no doubt. You do put an enormous amount of trust in the medical staff and our guys are outstanding in what they do and what they deliver," Hardwick said on Wednesday, after the Tigers touched down in Alice Springs.

So we don't have a sport science or fitness section making these decisions, we only have a "medical" section.
That explains all those decisions to keep playing injured players.
They were all made by the "medical department".

I can't see in that article any quotes from Hardwck about the Sport Science department.

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 07:48:01 PM »
didn't you recently highlight an article saying medical staff were being overridden by non medical staff in their decision making and having adverse results on the medical decisions?

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 07:55:40 PM »
A few Tiger related comments on twitter:

Matthew Richardson@mattricho0
"Never in 17 years of playing did I see or hear of any player taking any type of illegal supplement.Nor was I offered any. J.Charles aside."

Former Tiger Nathan Brown reveals on Triple M he was offered Human Growth Hormone by an ex-fitness coach at another club after he broke his leg.
""I did think about it for a fleeting moment, but I just thought about how often you'd be looking over your shoulder and I don't think I could live with that guilt. Certainly I did think about it. It was always in the back of my mind."


The man sacked from the Tigers, Dan Connors, also shared his thoughts (complete with Dusty in the avatar):
"Alot of speculation an no proof surely innocent untill proven otherwise essendon supporters should stick fat #justsayin"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-07/latest-updates

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 07:59:23 PM »
Yep, and I think that's our problem with the fitness/sport science department.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4219.msg349473#msg349473

With Demetriou now announcing there will be a full blown investigation by the AFL into the operation of clubs' sport science departments I think this will come out.
As stated in the article, the AFL already has the report about their usurping of medical decisions. 

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 08:01:46 PM »
what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?
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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 08:41:06 PM »
Id like a full blown presser announcing a forensic examination into our sports science department :thumbsup
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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 09:05:37 PM »
what do you think is the problem?

That no nmedical staff override the medical staff or the medical staff make the decisions?

 :huh
The problem being that Hardwick thinks the fitness/sport science staff ARE the medical staff and thus qualified to make medical decisions.

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Re: Hardwick keen to talk with Tigers' sports science department (afl site)
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 09:15:11 PM »
Id like a full blown presser announcing a forensic examination into our sports science department :thumbsup
Do you think they'd find this..



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