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TigerTimeII

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2013, 09:28:51 PM »
did we win or lose

end of story



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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2013, 09:30:38 PM »
no team will get 60 plus tackles a week
its a two way street
u play a team that plays one on one u get more tackles
the opposition have a lot to do with tackles with how they play
ffs get over it tackle counts mean nothing when u r winning and get the ball first

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2013, 09:35:01 PM »
did we win or lose

end of story

not the point, seasons only 2 games old but just putting it out there that I hope this is not a trend bc if it is, I guarantee you we wont be playing finals with 40 tackles a week. 
There was a kick in it against the blues, if we lost that does it all of a sudden become an issue?

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2013, 09:37:07 PM »
I've been concerned with this in both matches I've attended this year, last week especially concerned as I recall the number of tackles to half time was very low.

As the game unfolds and you see the opposition clearing the defensive zone with ease or the centre clearances are a free for all with no tackling pressure it is always a concern for me.
Or the defense is struggling to punish the ball getter and its an easy shot at goal.

This rubbish soft pansy footy won't cut it come finals time.

All of Sundays games had potential finalists with finals like atmosphere about them.
The Geelong v Roos game averaging in the 70s and the carl v coll game ave in the 60s for both teams.
The discrepancy was the Hawks v WC game with the hawks having more tackles. 
Watching that game the dawks were far more ferocious when it came to the contest not just chasing tail, but against the odds the dawks came away with a big win. 

I know that some may think its a misleading stat which may be true. But like I said if your ferocious once the opposition do get the ball then they'll always be rushed and turnovers are more likely. 
In the first 2 games not only have our tackle counts been extremely low, it just seems too bloody easy for the opposition once they've got the pill with the lack of pressure and ferocious tacking. 

Far too pansy softie footy for my liking.
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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2013, 09:41:29 PM »
didnt we have the most scoring opportunities from turnovers in rnd 1?
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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2013, 09:42:20 PM »
no team will get 60 plus tackles a week
its a two way street
u play a team that plays one on one u get more tackles
the opposition have a lot to do with tackles with how they play
ffs get over it tackle counts mean nothing when u r winning and get the ball first

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_team_rankings?year=2012&type=TA&sby=6

Really? 
last year 12 teams averaged 60+ tackles for the season,
17 teams averaged 58 or more
Only GC was way off with 54.
 If we were 2nd last in tackles with 50ish a week I wouldnt be concerned but when you see these numbers... 40 is... not good.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2013, 10:10:58 PM by tony_montana »

TigerTimeII

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2013, 09:48:00 PM »
wow and how many of those teams won the grand final

wow weee

and we thumped both finals teams

as I said meaningless stat



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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2013, 09:56:37 PM »
wow and how many of those teams won the grand final

wow weee

and we thumped both finals teams

as I said meaningless stat

  You said no one can lay60+ tackles a week and I just showed you that 12 did last year and another 5 sides got within 2 of 60, so quite clearly the trend is that all teams bar 1 were up around the 60+ tackles a week... and thats you response?  ;D

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
What was the possession count? We seemed to dominate general play outside of centre clearances. If we had more of the ball that would explain it a bit. You can't tackle guys without the ball unless you're Jones and you're tackling Cotchin.  >:(

Essendon had about 5000 more possessions than the dee's and still managed 61 tackles.

Article is right, we need to lift our tackle count... no matter what spin you put on it, it is too low. Houli is a player I have backed the whole time hes been here but 0 tackles over the first 2 weeks is just disgusting and needs addressing

FWIW I don't disagree. Grigg needs to lay a tackle too rather than corralling a bloke.

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2013, 11:15:07 PM »
while important what is an even bigger concern is the overall skillset. the lack of polish has always been an issue and it will remain an issue win lose or draw.
if we dont dramatically improve these two areas  there are going to be some real upset tiger ferals about the place. just a matter of time.

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2013, 07:45:30 AM »
first to the ball means u have less tackles

means nothing tackle count if u are first to the ball and win clearances and contested footy

True but on Friday we didn't win the clearances and that is bigger concern than our tackle count IMHO

Agree. Only reason Saints were in the game was because they kept winning the clearances

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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2013, 03:50:04 PM »
The dogs can easily beat us.
When teams have ran hard and played a run and carry game we haven't been able to stop the momentum.

We could be regarded as a very soft team when teams work out they can pressure us at the stoppages and then run and carry the ball.

Our games this year paint a disturbing picture:

Nab cup
Richmond v melbourne 8 tackles in a half game
Richmond v kangaroos 20 tackles in half a game
Richmond v essendon 40 tackles in full game
Richmond v hawthorn 40 tackles in full game
Home & away
Richmond v Carlton 40 tackles
Richmond v Stkilda 41 tackles

We may be able to get away with this softie type of footy against teams that are around our level or below but this soft lolly pop poofter footy won't wash against the hard teams in the comp.

We don't want to be regarded as eggs again do we?
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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2013, 04:49:56 PM »
A slight improvement today but still way off in my opinion

Hawks & pies have 40 a piece to half time.

Unless we become a fierce tackling beast & pressure the opposition we won't cut against the big boys.
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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2013, 04:55:15 PM »
when you dominate general play like we did today you wont rack up big tackle numbers.

without seeing the numbers i thought our pressure and tackling was pretty good today
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Re: Our low tackling stats
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2013, 04:58:00 PM »
dont really care about the stats 3-0  low counts all year if these results keep happening