Thought Dimma was out coached today and made some poor mistakes.
1. Chaplain onto Cloke earlier.
2. Cloke 1 on 1. Vickers doesn't do anything else why didn't he get back the in the 3rd quarter
3. Petterd as the loose man. Don't want to see this again.
Harry O was causing us so much damage until Jackson was moved onto him yet we had to deal with a stagnate Pettered.
On Grigg...
He is a dime a dozen footballer. What he brings to the table is nothing more than say anyone else could.
no right foot. It can be argued if he has a left one also.
No pressure acts. Not good overhead.
I hope Vlast can take his spot and send him back to Coburg.
I thought Ramps was spot on. Our list with the likes of Bacha, Grigg, Petterd will get us to bottom reaches of the 8 at best. We need more quality.
Lets be really honest as supporters - do any of us really believe in our hearts that Grigg, Houli, Petterd, Aaron Edwards, Chris Knights et al can take us anywhere beyond say 7th or 8th. We were deadset in the basement, Hartley has done a good job but the players brought to the club only have the capability of getting us out of the basement and to 7th or 8th at best. How can we win a flag with our list? Newman is getting on, Jackson is improved but? Morris is slowly being worked out by opposition clubs, Maric is our only ruckman, We dont have a monster back to take on the monster forwards. We need more class in the middle.
If we finish with 12 wins or 7th or 8th Id be doing handstands because thats the quality of our list. We need better players, we need better development and our coaches need to improve. Getting in players like Aaron Edwards, Stephenson, Knights, Petterd etc. that aint going to get us anywhere down the track because as we top up Collingwood and clubs like Collingwood are finding kids like Jamie Elliott and thats where you become a great club, by getting in quality kids developing them and making them stars. Just my opinion.
Do you recall Geelong up to 2006? I recall everyone saying they were a team of one paced plodders, players like Corey, Bartel, Enright, Kelly were debated and offered up for trade with no takers
Collingwood 2007-2009 were considered a team of soldiers but light on for top end class. Look at them now.
I don't think people realise how important it is to have a team full of reliablesoldiers, once you know you can rely on a consistent output from these types it enables the stars to really shine and in the process one or 2 of those soliders surprise and develop into stars themselves. Who would have picked Swan to be a star 5 years ago?? the guy was a spud. The geelong midfield was criticised for being slow and one dimensional, several years later they are one the great sides of all time.
For all the soldiers we're bringing in we are still not there yet, and still need to stock up on afl standard players..As well as theyve gone this season, when you have players like McGuane, jackson, Petterd King etc in your side you know you're still a little short on. Players like Conca, Ellis, Vlas, Helbig look like soldiers atm and thats what they should be striving for, but if they are developed correctly they can turn into legitimate very good AFL standard players.
We've done really well getting to where we are (from where we were) but if we continue bringing guys like Conca, Vlas, batch, Ellis and helbig through I have no doubt in 1-2 years we'll see the real benefit. Houli and Grigg have more ability than they are given credit for on these forums, but I do agree they both need to do more and get that element of downhill skiiing out of their system quick smart.
