Morris cops a week from MRP [updated]

[WilliamPowell]

actually, can anyone who thinks that morris deserved a suspension ( as opposed to believing he would be given a suspension by the MRP) explain what he could have done differently?

Great point al, I don't think it deserved a ban because to me it was a good old fashion "hip 'n' shoulder" ala Scotty Turner but unfortunately those days are going the way of the dinosaur and Tassie Tiger

He did the right thing by his team, team first footy can't ask for anymore than that IMO

[Penelope]

actually, can anyone who thinks that morris deserved a suspension ( as opposed to believing he would be given a suspension by the MRP) explain what he could have done differently?

Stood and watched like the rest of the team did in the third. 

[DCrane]

what could he have done differently? he did everything right. tuched the elbow in, stayed low and elliot tried to spin out of the way rather than take the bump

It was elliots own fault he got collected high.

Stiff to get any weeks for that one, I reckon Elliot as much to blame as Morris.

Correct. Elliott had to take the bump.
You can't help people that don't want to help themselves. And why should you protect people that refuse to protect themselves?

[Yeahright]

All sounds fair to me, max two weeks I thought with early plea

is this based on your opinion of the incident or what you believed the MRP would do?

Tried to have unbias opinion. As a tiger supporter I thought he deserved nothing  . Put it simply he didn't mean to get him high and did IMO, so that deserves a week or two.

what could he have done differently? he did everything right. tuched the elbow in, stayed low and elliot tried to spin out of the way rather than take the bump

It was elliots own fault he got collected high.

stuffing girls game when that is even looked at, let alone given a suspension.

although it is less than i expected from the softies

Yeah I get that, but the fact he got him high is why he got a little holiday like it or not

[Smokey]

what could he have done differently? he did everything right. tuched the elbow in, stayed low and elliot tried to spin out of the way rather than take the bump

It was elliots own fault he got collected high.

Stiff to get any weeks for that one, I reckon Elliot as much to blame as Morris.

Correct. Elliott had to take the bump.
You can't help people that don't want to help themselves. And why should you protect people that refuse to protect themselves?

And when you watch it in slow motion, Morris even turns his back at the last minute and the actual contact is more a glance across the back of his shoulder rather than a full shoulder bump.  The more times I watch it the angrier I get because it was well within the rules and Elliot was the culpable party by ducking his body at the last moment.

[big tone]

See I disagree. I think this year they have been more consistant than last. Forgot completely about last year, this year things have changed and the decissions have been consistant. At least you know the rules this year. Last year was more of a lotto.
In the Morris case, he decided to bumb, went in low, kept his elbow down but still got Elliot a little high, but no real damage done. A free kick or a minor report.  Remembering Elliot didn't have the ball, so tackling is out, but bumping is still ok as long as its no more than 5 meters off the ball.. I think a 1 week suspension is about right for a bump that was exicuted quiet well but slide up a little to graze the side of Elliots head. Now that was right in front of me and if Morris didn't do what he did, I'd be filthy. Good result for the RFC

Agree it's a great result for the RFC, especially considering they didn't even look at the Morris "bump" on Swan which IMV was worse than the Elliott one

But where we disagree is the consistency of the MRP. To me they are horribly inconsistent especially if you compare what was reportable last year to this and the panel being the same. Pretty sure Mark Fraser was the head of it last year stand corrected if I am wrong there. they seemed to be interpreting things very differently this year to last, hence why people are confused and frustrated

I am still scratching my head as to how Thomas from N0rt got off in round 1 after Zieball got pinged last year. The Ziebell one was the precedant for head high contact regarding blokes leaving the ground and hitting a bloke in the head whether it was deliberate or accidental. But that whole duty of care thing seems to have been turfed aside in 2013. The Morris bump on Swan was almost a carbon copy of the Ziebell one but Morris doesn't get looked at. Why? It doesn't make sense. But as I said somewhere along the line in 2013, someone will again get suspended for that sort of bump and the howls of complaint will again be on

Again IMV the Morris one on Elliott is similar to the Thomas one in that in both cases the players (Thomas & Morris) both had eyes for the opponent not the ball and both were off the ground. Only difference being Morris bumped with the shoulder and Thomas not only hit him with the shoulder but his head made contact and that happened to cause the most damage. So why has Morris been suspended and Thomoas wasn't? Thomas certainly did more damage that Morris did

As I said I'd take the week and run but it still doesn't stop me from doing this  when it comes to the MRP

The rule has changed from last year WP, so comparing last year to this is void. Last year the bumping player had all the onus not to make head high contact even if it was accidental. This year, like in the Thomas case, if the bump is legal and heads accidentally clash then it's considered an accident. No suspention.. That's why last week Ryder and that other bogan from the Bombers both got weeks. Both their bumps hit the opponents high and deliberate.

[DCrane]

The more times I watch it the angrier I get because it was well within the rules and Elliot was the culpable party by ducking his body at the last moment.

I do too. I feel jibbed even more in the sense that I have been waiting 30 goddamn years to watch a Richmond side that works for each other in the form of shepherding then you get this. I hope Morris doesn't change his game because of this. Can you imagine the outcry by the likes of us OER types if he stops bumping in that situation!

[WilliamPowell]

The rule has changed from last year WP, so comparing last year to this is void. Last year the bumping player had all the onus not to make head high contact even if it was accidental. This year, like in the Thomas case, if the bump is legal and heads accidentally clash then it's considered an accident. No suspention.. That's why last week Ryder and that other bogan from the Bombers both got weeks. Both their bumps hit the opponents high and deliberate.

When did it change, when did they announce the change? Not trying argue for the sake of it; I am being serious

It seems it only changed after the MRP didn't penalise Thomas. Up until that point everyone (media, players, coaches and fans) thought what he did was reportable and warranrted a suspension. Maybe it isn't the rule that's changed just they way they enforce it