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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2013, 09:06:19 AM »
Forward line macking

HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards

+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...

Loaded plus Locked

 :clapping..spot on the money.

Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
all rubbish aside WAT, if you apply the same rational reasoning to the forwards you mentioned, as you did with the backs Bents listed,  you will see that our forward line is not that strong - at this point in time.

Bents was right when he said that our forward line needs more attention ATM, but perhaps that will change by the end of next season
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2013, 09:20:04 AM »
Forward line macking

HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards

+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...

Loaded plus Locked

 :clapping..spot on the money.

Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\
all rubbish aside WAT, if you apply the same rational reasoning to the forwards you mentioned, as you did with the backs Bents listed,  you will see that our forward line is not that strong - at this point in time.

Bents was right when he said that our forward line needs more attention ATM, but perhaps that will change by the end of next season

Fair enough. Honestly though I just really think we have more players in the team that can play forward and not back making the forward depth more robust. Maybe I am looking at it to wrong way, I don't know, I just still see the backline as our weakness should multiple injuries occur.

If this is the case it will be interesting to see where Hardwick plays the players we have drafted as most of them including Lennon are forwards (albeit Lennon is a midfielder/forward).
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2013, 09:24:25 AM »
No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year  :shh
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2013, 09:56:23 AM »
No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year  :shh

I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2013, 03:14:32 PM »
Forward line macking

HF: Martin / Cotchin
CHF: Deledio
HF: Lennon
FP: McBean
FF: Riewoldt
FP: Vickery / Maric / Griffiths / Hampson / Astbury / Elton / Aaron Edwards

+ rotation = Conca. Ellis. Vlastuin. Foley. Gordon. Lloyd. McDonuts. Bannfield. Aarnot. Knights. Ohanlon. Shane Edwards. King. Helbig...

Loaded plus Locked

 :clapping..spot on the money.

Al, I honestly can't believe your comment, I thought you were more onto it than that mate.. :-\

Quality > quantity, and boy is that lacking some quality if you remove the players that would have to be playing in the midfield

If the like of Conca, Foley, Vlastuin can lift and become full time, good mids.

I dont see any reason why we cannot play our best players forward of half way. We have not had that luxury in the past but hopefully we now have the depth of midfield to play the like of Cotch, Lids, Martin forward full time if not at least part time.

Deledio, Martin, Cotchin, McBean, Riewoldt, Lennon + another tall

would do damage - if the 2nd teir could get the ball down there
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2013, 03:53:10 PM »
No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year  :shh

I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??

rookie listed for 2 seasons now, he hasn't been playing football for that long and has come along in leaps and bounds in that time, looking at him in pre season he has the body now to match it  :shh
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2013, 03:55:00 PM »
Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.

As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.

Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.

Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2013, 04:03:02 PM »
No need for this guy , Darrou will be the big mover this year  :shh

I hope so BJ but that has been said for a few years now, will he be as good/valuable to us next year as Frawley would be??

rookie listed for 2 seasons now, he hasn't been playing football for that long and has come along in leaps and bounds in that time, looking at him in pre season he has the body now to match it  :shh

2 seasons eh, thought it was longer than that. I know he has the physique to match it but there is a whole lot more thank that. Frawley has it now, compare Darrou to Frawley at the end of the season. I think we should get a better perspective then. 
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2013, 04:18:26 PM »
Last season and this, we have been topping up with the acquisitions  of mature players. No doubt the theme of the club is to try get success in the not too distant future. Regardless of the debate on correct list management - if this is going to be the stratagem (win the flag before we lose Deledio, Foley etc.) then we should be going hell for leather to get a 'star', in the class of Franklin, Mummy etc. I dont care who it is as long as its quality - NicNat, Frawley, Cameron etc.  More so now in the era of free agency.

Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.

As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.

Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.

Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.

For the next 45 years expansions clubs will have rubber salary caps for the good of the expansion of the sport.

If Judd gets his extra 600k outside of the salary cap the northern clubs will be allowed to continue extracting the urine without anyone battering an eyelid.

The integrity of the sport at elite level will always be allowed to be bollocks. unfortunately.

Acuse me of wearing my tin hat if you so wish buts fairly obvious. 

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2013, 12:58:42 PM »
is that a tin foil hat or an old kebab wrapper? can't tell

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2013, 01:49:12 PM »
Last season and this, we have been topping up with the acquisitions  of mature players. No doubt the theme of the club is to try get success in the not too distant future. Regardless of the debate on correct list management - if this is going to be the stratagem (win the flag before we lose Deledio, Foley etc.) then we should be going hell for leather to get a 'star', in the class of Franklin, Mummy etc. I dont care who it is as long as its quality - NicNat, Frawley, Cameron etc.  More so now in the era of free agency.

Frawley's just what need, but jeez I hope we're planning to make a big play for Jeremy Cameron the following year. I'd even arrange Martin's "tour of facilities" and drive him up there myself this time, if that's what it took.

As for lower profile fa's next year, reckon Ibbotson's worth a crack. Massively underrated.

Your dreaming with Cameron. Remember they have a billion $ salary cap.

Not forever they don't (unless the AFL move the goalposts yet again -which is always on the cards) Nearly every club in Victoria -and probably both in SA seeing as he's from the border- will be after him and will be positioning themselves to get him. We'd be derelict in our duty not to be among them. May not become the next Carey, but he'll come as close to it as anyone will.

For the next 45 years expansions clubs will have rubber salary caps for the good of the expansion of the sport.

If Judd gets his extra 600k outside of the salary cap the northern clubs will be allowed to continue extracting the urine without anyone battering an eyelid.

The integrity of the sport at elite level will always be allowed to be bollocks. unfortunately.

Acuse me of wearing my tin hat if you so wish buts fairly obvious.

Yes I'm aware of  all that, hence the disclaimer in parentheses.


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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2013, 02:04:52 PM »
Frawley has been ass for two years

just thought i'd throw that out there

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2013, 02:16:25 PM »
Frawley has been ass for two years

just thought i'd throw that out there

Coinciding with Melbourne being a donkey.

I can't see another Frawley coming to Richmond anyway. Better off looking for a younger stuff.
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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2013, 02:52:08 PM »
maybe he is a one season wonder

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Re: James Frawley
« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2013, 03:08:54 PM »
Maybe we can land Jake Carlisle for 800k a year too. Frawley at FB & Carlisle CHB. They'd only get a combined total of 14 kicked on them each week.