I see your point bj, but all those players have one thing in common, they are free agents or playing at sides like we used to be. Sam Mitchell is on 350k, Sewell prob less. Roughy wouldn't be on huge coin. Im sure players like Enright, Kelly etc at Geelong have been paid unders in order to build the side they have. Freo have close to a mill in the kitty they can lash out, they have a stabkle of star players but obviously they have a rate structure that pays them less. Lids is on about 5-550. If oxx is correct Martin was offered 530k not 480. 530 is very reasonable if Cotch is on 600k.