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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2014, 12:42:30 AM »
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2014, 04:34:50 AM »
Hard to see the Russians backing down anytime soon. Militarily, Ukraine can't match them while the West and UN are sitting back.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5298314/data/ukraine-russia-data.png

The problem for Ukraine is their eastern and southern provinces have large Russian-speaking populations with the Crimea near 77%.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2014, 09:46:52 PM »
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The United States, Great Britain and Russia agreed in a pact "to assure Ukraine's territorial integrity" in return for Ukraine giving up a nuclear arsenal it inherited from the Soviet Union after declaring independence in 1991, said Pavlo Rizanenko, a member of the Ukrainian parliament.

"We gave up nuclear weapons because of this agreement," said Rizanenko, a member of the Udar Party headed by Vitali Klitschko, a candidate for president. "Now there's a strong sentiment in Ukraine that we made a big mistake."

His statements come as Russia raised the possibility it may send its troops beyond the Crimean peninsula on the Black Sea into the eastern half of Ukraine

usatoday.com

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Hard to see the Russians backing down anytime soon. Militarily, Ukraine can't match them while the West and UN are sitting back.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5298314/data/ukraine-russia-data.png

The problem for Ukraine is their eastern and southern provinces have large Russian-speaking populations with the Crimea near 77%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Ground_Forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

wont be pretty

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2014, 03:54:42 PM »
Welcome to history the way it is, was and always will be.

I'd like to build the world a home
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Grow apple trees and honey bees
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DC, sounding more like Ned Flanders there than Nelson Muntz  ;D

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2014, 12:33:20 PM »
Went to the polls and 90% of voters want to be part of Russia.

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2014, 12:59:43 PM »
Went to the polls and 90% of voters want to be part of Russia.

and thats the end of the story. thats democracy, Putin always knew he would win here and the wests only interest was strategic it had nothing to do with human rights and infact even in terms of human rights the Russians were right. the fanatical ukrainians were treating the russian population like poo.

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2014, 01:03:44 PM »
Democracy? America overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government  :whistle

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2014, 01:18:04 PM »
Democracy? America overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government  :whistle

There was a democratically elected pro Russian gvt in Crimea wasn't there? They were then illegally thrown out of gvt hence why Russia has flexed their muscles? Now it goes to the polls, the people speak again and the US don't recognise it? Does it have anything to do with Crimea being a key strategic area for them to put some missiles in?

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2014, 01:19:47 PM »
Went to the polls and 90% of voters want to be part of Russia.

and thats the end of the story. thats democracy, Putin always knew he would win here and the wests only interest was strategic it had nothing to do with human rights and infact even in terms of human rights the Russians were right. the fanatical ukrainians were treating the russian population like poo.

No no, you have it the wrong way around, the US and its western allies are the good guys, if they reject the result it means the Russians are bad

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2014, 05:18:49 PM »
Russia def good guys

IMO

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2014, 05:20:59 PM »
Democracy? America overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government  :whistle

There was a democratically elected pro Russian gvt in Crimea wasn't there? They were then illegally thrown out of gvt hence why Russia has flexed their muscles? Now it goes to the polls, the people speak again and the US don't recognise it? Does it have anything to do with Crimea being a key strategic area for them to put some missiles in?

Correct but watch the west portray Russians as evil  :whistle

The last bit was deep so ill leave that alone for nown

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2014, 10:23:22 AM »



The last bit was deep so ill leave that alone for nown

Wow. Setting a benchmark there...

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2014, 10:54:45 PM »
poos about to get real, rumoured that 80,000 Russian troops are massed at the border, it could be go time soon.

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine [merged]
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2014, 11:01:35 PM »
She can invade me anytime:

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