Forward Structure

[froars]

Forward Structure – not working.  I saw glimpses of it last year and it worried me a bit.  First game means poo really, and they may get it together, and we know Jack even in a crap year can kick over 60.  But it’s the players around him that are not working well, Jack’s giving out poor body language still, no crumbers, no good leads, no good delivery going on yesterday, the keys are being out-manned when it’s bombed in.  Can’t rely on resting midfielders to kick the goals, they’re down there for the bonus goals.  I prefer Vickery out, keep Jack only for a bit longer to see if he can get his head straight and persist with Griffiths, he looks more likely than Vicky.

Who's our forwards coach?

[Judge Roughneck]

Is the game plan still kick to the forward pocket and win a throw in?

Entry to the forward line is as much of an issue as forward structure IMO

The jack Griffiths Vickery trio has potential  (assuming tyrone turns up)in Victoria games. King/bannfield/llyodmtype would of been handy

[froars]

Add to that keeping forward pressure to keep it in there, non-existent yesterday.
Have to persist with Edwards, he just tries a bit harder than the others and maybe not as good, but I'd prefer someone having a go at least.

[Judge Roughneck]

At one stage Vickery had a good chase followed by griffo. Leading to winning the ball back. If blokes four meters tall combined can chase the littles ones should be able to also

Everyone loves Newman but are we going to win the flag with in a forward pocket?

Donuts/shaneEdwards did some good work forward

[WilliamPowell]

Lade is our forwards coach

Add to that keeping forward pressure to keep it in there, non-existent yesterday.

BINGO

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Lade is our forwards coach

Add to that keeping forward pressure to keep it in there, non-existent yesterday.

BINGO

Wasn't he a ruckman that rarely kicked a goal?

[TigerLand]

Everything was against us, (all our own fault).

Poor delivery.
Essentially wet weather footy, with high humidity and a wet ball, not ideal for tall forwards.
Our forward line was filled with tall forwards with no small forwards around them
We bombed the ball in long against numbers back for GC.
We had no forward pressure to keep it in there.

So in short, we kicked the ball poorly in long and high to our tall forwards who weren't on their game and had wet hands with a slippery ball, we were out numbered and had no1 at the fall of the ball to crumb and had no pressure on keeping it in there.

[Penelope]

high humidity does not make for wet weather football or create a wet ball.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

high humidity does not make for wet weather football or create a wet ball.

But we had the wet ball and they had the dry ball!

[tigs2011]

Wasn't even that humid. Tonight is stuffing humid. We'd have lost by 15 goals in tonight's weather. 

[Andyy]

Jack should just be FF, never CHF. He at least knows how to lead.

Vickery was behind all night and got toweled. Should play half-forward flank IMO just nowhere near the goal square - waste of time kicking it to him there.

ATM looks to me like Griff knows better how to play KPF than Vickery.

Ditch Newman. Play King or Lloyd. King for pressure, Lloyd because I thought he showed plenty in the NAB.

And get Knights/Lennon in ASAP. Need a medium real bad.

[TigerLand]

high humidity does not make for wet weather football or create a wet ball.

Is it quantum physics to understand that March Queensland weather involves higher humidity and dew % compared to dry Victorian conditions?
Thus making it closer to wet conditions than dry? Not to mention the higher amount of sweating = slippery pill. I apologise if that is difficult to understand, I assumed wrong.

But surely you can see having 3 KP forwards in March on the GC was a bad idea?

Keep Smiling Al.

[RollsRoyce]

Everything was against us, (all our own fault).

Poor delivery.
Essentially wet weather footy, with high humidity and a wet ball, not ideal for tall forwards.
Our forward line was filled with tall forwards with no small forwards around them
We bombed the ball in long against numbers back for GC.
We had no forward pressure to keep it in there.

So in short, we kicked the ball poorly in long and high to our tall forwards who weren't on their game and had wet hands with a slippery ball, we were out numbered and had no1 at the fall of the ball to crumb and had no pressure on keeping it in there.

Essentially everything you said Popelord, plus:
-We had a number of players down on the night (Ellis, Conca, Chaplin)
-The usual non-contribution from inexplicable automatic selections like Grigg and Petterd
-Dustin Martin wasted in the backline until the end of the game
-The cardinal sin that Richmond seems to commit over and over of allowing teams to clog up our forward line, yet find acres of open space in attack on the rebound, because our players are too lazy to follow their opponents out.
-It has to be said, pro-Gold Coast umpiring all night long. Notably, inconsistent interpretation of around the neck.
Phew- in the light of all that it's amazing that we only lost by 18 points.

[froars]

Edwards needs to be gifted games like Vickery and Jack seem to each week.  He will run around and provide options, even if he's not getting it, and not hide behind the point post all day waiting for it to come to him.  Until Jack starts leading better, I'd be working the team around Edwards.  If plan A doesn't work, go to plan B. If that doesn't work, go to plan C.  They just seemed to have no plan at all on the weekend.  The forward line just doesn't work well together and I blame the coaching for letting it get this far.

[froars]

-The cardinal sin that Richmond seems to commit over and over of allowing teams to clog up our forward line, yet find acres of open space in attack on the rebound, because our players are too lazy to follow their opponents out.

Yes